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In contemplation this AM & for the past few days I have pondered the nature of my mind & how I appear not to be in control (in charge) of the contents except for short periods of time. I speculate that few who interact with the World have total control. I hold everything as beings, even thoughts, trains of feeling & trains of action. My mind seems like entering a room (“the inside” according to S) & everyone there wants my attention . By my I mean that being to which I say “I AM!”.  I wrote PR this AM about that & it may be a while before there is an answer.
GW had an interesting series I discovered a while ago c.1956 P.1231 ssq. (Tai Shu FOOK IN) –  Here are the next 3 pages before it merges in with projective geometry.  Maybe the why of projective geometry can be teased out of them or not.
For any more I will try to use cloud storage such as Google Drive or another one somewhere. Any choices for you folks?  My Drive free space is almost used up. 

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Seth says
Mark de LA 2016-07-21 08:17:45 [item 21154#54491]
Apparently mind is tamed a bit by logical thinking, meditation, NLP & many other practices. Some of them involve old occult invocation & evocation. LOA tries to invoke a one-poled positivity multiverse.  I prefer to be independent of it all & make my own choices.

Seth says
i find it quite absurd that “there would be” just one best way to be … be that presumed to be LOA, or GW, or PR, or Occult, or Catholic, or Jewish, or Muslim or whatever.  Rather i think “there is something” about the diversity of each of us “finding our way”, and what that makes up together.  

i still like to become aware of other’s ways … not to judge them for the people who use them … and not necessarily to adopt them … but rather just to become aware of them and to notice their changes.   Me, i am a specific awareness freak laugh.   In that light i might ask, from time to time, for clarifications on yours or your interpretation of GW’ or others.   I know when others do that to me with a similar attitude, it helps me articulate and represent what i am doing.

Mark de LA says
Yep, am on my way out. … I prefer the scientific method try it out & see if it works … cool

Seth says
i think many times these kinds of deep spiritual things work for one person and yet do not work for another person.  Again, people seem to assume that if it works for them, then it “should” work for somebody else.  I’m telling you, that judgment does not work for me.    And between my words, i hinted that these methods “should” not work the same.  So it is my “narriative” that  deep inside a person’s spirit or being, the “scientific method” does not work … rather the “scientific method” only works on those connections outside their being which they share with others.  Internally we have an incredible freedom not to be held to any standard. 

And, strangely enough, if you look at the actual “scientific method”,  you must needs see that this logically follows from that method itself.   The scientific method relies on the ability for others to get the same results.  If they cannot, then the method cannot be used.

Mark de LA says
I think you are off jousting again . I am talking about being in control of the content of my mind – what is at the end of my arm of attention in there.  Nothing else! There as an absurd paradox in implying that I am not in control pared with the question “then who is?”.  Many methods, varying results as many as there may be people.
cool

Seth says
ok i was indeed talking about a different aspect yes.

Me, i must reject the proposition that “i am in complete control of the contents of my mind” every time i notice something happening outside of my mind  introducing new content in my mind.   I even noticed that happening this morning when i was was deep inside my being, yet not sleeping.  Nathan seems to extend his attribution of control to that which, imho,  is not even inside his being. 

What do you do?

Mark de LA says
Check back in a year or 2 & I will give you more to joust with. Meanwhile focus on breathing lowers the noise level. But then all that’s in my mind is my breathing & shit from the outside & inside using my mind as a pinball machine. 

Mark de LA says
TR in his date with destiny had some interesting content & he is an interesting example of what he teaches. I can see parallels with NLP invoking & evoking a new &/or transformed identity.

Seth says
well i too look to a “transformed identity” to write the story of what is happening.  its back to that whole alan watts thing that ego (the boundary between inside a being and outside a being) is quite up to the freedom of a  being herself. 

and then thinking about this deep insides, from where does a signal from the I Ching come,  from where the signal from Bozomic Decomposition ?  i mean these signals which seem to match so very incrediably well … are obviously deeply subjective … yet are “new” content to a mind.

Mark de LA says
Sounds like old jousting.  My question is not dependent on any method.

Seth says
well what i am doing is intended to be more a “reaching out to make connections which we have never made before”, rather than “jousting which me thinks would not make any new connections” at all.

i wasn’t so much as comparing method,  rather i was trying to become aware that a signal was coming “into” a mind. i interpreted your question as asking from whence it came.   here i was expanding the domain of your question to include signals which obviously do not come from the 5 traditional senses.

Mark de LA says
I let the question keep percolating answers open to any – no need to stop asking on any particular one

Seth says