FIRST STEP - Reinvent Capitalism, Without Cronies

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For whatever label you want to assign it, a Dynamic Equilibrium in the production & distribution of goods & services & the necessities of living – food, clothing & shelter must come about – independent of governments – to avoid wars , pestilence & create a thriving human life-experience. So far governments don’t do a very good & balanced job of it. 
Robbing Hoodies notwithstanding.

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Seth says
Seth 2016-04-14 09:49:53 [item 20800#51203]
well certainly there is a tug-o-war between the greedy rich and the needy poor. 

me, i do not want to pull for one side or the other.  

so put something new in the kontext that makes dropping the rope possible. 
Mr. Wallaby 2016-04-14 09:51:59 [item 20800#51205]
& the greedy ruling power elete in government – 3-way circus, that.
Seth 2016-04-14 09:55:56 [item 20800#51206]
well i don’t really see any difference between “the greedy ruling power elete in government” and the “greedy rich” ← those are part of the same network.   so not really a 3-way … still just a 2 way.  

and yes i am totally with you … get business out of politics … and get politics out of business.  

thing is you cannot just dop the rope and let one side control the other.  
Mr. Wallaby 2016-04-14 10:00:38 [item 20800#51207]
same metaphor allows me not to see any difference between the greedy poor, low-information voters demanding bread & circuses from the ruling power elete.  Maybe it is a 4-ring circus, eh? laughing
sure … that is the other side of the rope yes.

the thing to realize now is that times have changed … especially with automations … so jobs are different and american life is changing.   yet we are still operating on the same structures and assumptions that evolved during the industrial revolution.  

me thinks, some new adaption is going to be happening.   hold on … there might be some turbulence …

Seth says
Mr. Wallaby 2016-04-14 10:06:24 [item 20800#51209]
It is less simple than dropping a rope, arguing from analogy notwithstanding.  Your local coop is awesome & a nice start in the right direction, but would probably not scale up. Blockchain instead of money is another. Increasing transparency of government is another, though swimming against the tide.  The 20783 on voting & local initiatives is yet another. Evolution all at once is confusable with revolution. pondering

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-04-14 11:27:24 [item 20800#51211]
Transparency is just honesty no reason to hide or be secret. ← great stuff
? Obviously there is a reason for the current occupants if Congress has to subpoena to get documents & cell phone accounts beyond government access are used for business. Part of it is about who controls the media narrative about what is happening. Then too in a totally peaceful world one would not need military secrets . cool

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-04-15 04:12:02 [item 20800#51213]
well you can’t go to war without secrets … it’s almost like the latter creates the former.   complete transparency … total honesty … is incomparable with the war.   With the RWG too!  So i wonder just what this thirst for privacy in our society is really all about? 
Pronouncement is mostly your axe grinding in the wind.  Ever been to a boxing match? Played a game of chess? Fought completely in the open? 

Game theory is "the study of mathematical models of conflict and cooperation between intelligent rational decision-makers."[1] Game theory is mainly used in economicspolitical science, and psychology, as well as logiccomputer sciencebiology and poker.[2] Originally, it addressed zero-sum games, in which one person's gains result in losses for the other participants. Today, game theory applies to a wide range of behavioral relations, and is now an umbrella term for the science of logical decision making in humans, animals, and computers.

cf Wikipedia

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-04-15 08:18:43 [item 20800#51217]
well imagine a nation who’s leaders and citizens were being completely honest, …. with each other and with an erstwhile opposing nation … now imagine them going to war.   if you can honestly imagine that in minute detail, …. animate it in your mind with those conditions …. then maybe my “pronouncement” is full of shit ← won’t be the first time.  

the same with two people playing a rwg game. 

me, i don’t understand your aug on this ← maybe the usual deception game.  imagine, what if there were no augs? …  total comprehension … nothing behind the scenes … no hidden agendas … all agendas out in the open … transparency … no secrets all contexts available for all to know. 
I don’t do augs or augging – your strawman/strawdog popped-back into it’s imaginary world.  laughing 

Seth says
Mr. Wallaby 2016-04-15 08:32:31 [item 20800#51219]
BTW, someone said (maybe RS) that there are no errors in mother nature .  Errors occur in the mind (astral body?)
?  … a wise man indeed!

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-04-15 08:42:01 [item 20800#51222]
wel all cop augs … maybe hard to see them yourself. 
Whatever, your steamer not mine. ← a Bozit