Obamma Hit by a Rock!

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Mark de LA says
This article by Wesley Pruden explains the news front a little better since the cartoon requires some context:
source: ... Throw a rock into a congregation of collies, retrievers, poodles, spaniels and assorted other aristocrats and you can be sure the dog yelping in unexpected pain is the one you hit.
...

source: ...
"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," he said. "We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is

Mark de LA says
Actually I am surprised that Obamma got sucked into being the butt of an "I didn't fuck no chicken!" joke. It's  about the farmer stopped by a sheriff with a dead chicken and a tube of Vaseline in his front car seat ...


Mark de LA says
M 2008-05-16 23:44:42 10103
seth 2008-05-16 18:25:38 10103
Actually Dubya should look up the word "appeasement" and learn how it is properly used.  To appease you must give up something.  Just demonstrating a willingness to talk is insufficient to establish the act of appeasement.  So there are no democrats who currently meet the requirement of the word.  It was simply a cheep shot.  Too bad McCain will suffer based upon Bush's continued mouthing off.
The appeasment is something like O giving credibility & presidential status to Hamas, Hezbollah & the rat-faced head of Iran.

Anyway Democrat outrage is a piss-poor attempt to erase the truth about Obama.

Mark de LA says
   Ed Gillespie, gaggling to reporters today in Saudi Arabia, said that the White House really meant to Get Carter, not Obama:
source: ... "We did not anticipate that it would be taken that way, because its kind of hard to take it that way when you look at the actual words. ... There was some anticipation that someone might say you know its an expression of rebuke to former President Carter for having met with Hamas. that was something that was anticipated but no one wrote about it or raised it."
...Funny thing is that Carter himself on foreign soil bashed Bush & the administration many times!


Seth says
source: Bush
... "as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along" ...
I actually though that was good speech writing.  It neatly, almost persuasively, sums up the stand.   But let's examine some of the assumptions inherent in that phrase from a radical point of view.  Look back in history and view from the other side of the ocean Bush's mind set when he was riding high high after wiping out the Taliban in Afghanistan: could someone have dissuaded him with some ingenious argument  not to blow America's high prestige on the biggest disaster in American foreign policy?  Looking back from this side of the ocean, could someone have talked to Saddam and convinced him to come clean on the WMD else suffer almost certain devastation and humiliation of himself and his country?   Probably not.  But what does that say about the mind set surrounding the decisions of our political leaders?   Can one not hope for something better?  Can we not move in a way to change that kind of mind set?

Mark de LA says
Bush et al, including the UN (that toothless, worthless bunch of thieves) gave Saddam 14 resolutions & numbers of years to change. The first gulf war should have been a clear warning.  Shows you what change is worth! Saul's rule 10 - what would O really have done to change Saddam? What would he do about the rat-faced president of Iran & his nuke? Of course Saddam didn't have the death wish that Osama & other terrorists have.


Seth says
M 2008-05-19 10:37:51 10103
Bush et al, including the UN  gave Saddam 14 resolutions & numbers of years to change. ..... what would O really have done to change Saddam?
Well we do know that something went horribly wrong with the decision making process.  But i think you have asked the wrong question.  The question is what could anyone have done to change Bush's mind which he apparently had made up long before taking office.  I am so waiting to see if Obama can deliver on his promise to start a new kind of foreign policy.  Maybe he is all just hot air ... maybe foreign relations are all just about power and force and who can bully who.  Or maybe, just maybe, power and force can be used more wisely.  We will just have to see now, won't we.

Mark de LA says
Changing the question does not answer it!  I guess I have successfully used Saul's rule3.


Mark de LA says
Hindsight is 20/20. Monday morning quarterbacking is just what your side loves to do. Still, there is little evidence that O knows what to do - just platitudes & flip-flopping.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-05-19 11:24:18 10103
M 2008-05-19 11:08:24 10103
Changing the question does not answer it!  I guess I have successfully used Saul's rule3.

Between the lines i actually have answered your question.  But let me be more direct about it ... Obama wouldn't have picked a fight with Sadam in the first place.  There was no reason to even make a crisis about it. History has proven that it was concocted war. 
Just because you concocted your answer doesn't make it true. What would Obama have done in the face of CIA & other evidence that Saddam wanted to acquire nuclear technology & had already used chemical wepons of mass destruction against his own people (for which he was finally executed)?


Mark de LA says
& back to the subject:


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-05-19 11:46:03 10103
M 2008-05-19 11:38:14 10103
seth 2008-05-19 11:24:18 10103
M 2008-05-19 11:08:24 10103
Changing the question does not answer it!  I guess I have successfully used Saul's rule3.

Between the lines i actually have answered your question.  But let me be more direct about it ... Obama wouldn't have picked a fight with Sadam in the first place.  There was no reason to even make a crisis about it. History has proven that it was concocted war. 
Just because you concocted your answer doesn't make it true. What would Obama have done in the face of CIA & other evidence that Saddam wanted to acquire nuclear technology & had already used chemical wepons of mass destruction against his own people (for which he was finally executed)?

One would have hoped that he would have believed the CIA when it told him that there was no crediable evidance of WMD.
Apparently you believe in historical revisionism & bad spelling!


Mark de LA says
Darn! Tey just keep coming:
Sorry, it may be past the newsfront.


Mark de LA says
M 2008-05-21 08:32:10 10103
It seems as if O is sticking to his negotiating with terrorists idea while slightly back-peddling. He should have taken more history. He should know the difference between a government with a military & a band of terrorists thugs who fight from behind the skirts of women & children. He should know the difference between people who value life & those who value death who think they can blow themselves up & immediately end up in heaven with 70 virgins.
 

& just for punctuation:


Mark de LA says
"The Obama Talks"


Mark de LA says
"The Jimmy Carter Talks" started it all off

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