Research on Thought Processes

     In this item I will make the distinctions between blogging for effect, i.e. looking for material which supports a candidate or your own predisposed opinions on a topic and genuine research processes, some involving internet news research, intended to discover the truth of the matter.
This is a work in progress & may take alarming changes in direction as my own discovery of the truth mutates from what I think things are at the moment.
     This is a little different than trying to outfox the RWG. It is more like pursuing the scientific method.    
     This item will not analyze politics because that would essentially be futile. Politics is spin & mostly an attempt to obscure the truth in favor of partisan goals.
     If I were to research a topic I would begin with a tool something like mentography and begin branch by branch, area by area to fill in the details based on a desire to satisfy completeness. Another tool with similar goals is mindmapping.  Mentography captures the fine semantics whereas mindmaps will capture the organizational structure of the topic.

     Another tool which is not computerized is the mind. These are in the domain of zen & ontology. The most profound results are obtained by the contradictory temperaments of "wanting to know the truth of the matter no matter what shows up" & cultivating a beginner's mind of "not knowing" even though some results show up. This latter concept demands that we keep looking for answers even though we already have a pocket full. Children in grade school are used to raising their hands when they have the answer & never look for more. We should always look for more answers; the World being much more complex than what will give us an A on a report card.

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Comments


Mark de LA says
As I have said before & it is worth repeating here the term a better truth is spin in & of itself!


Seth says
M 2008-09-16 10:53:40 10488
M 2008-09-16 10:40:44 10488
seth 2008-09-16 09:54:32 10488
source: M above
Politics is spin & mostly an attempt to obscure the truth in favor of partisan goals.
What is true is that some politicians obscure the truth in favor of partisan goals.   The trick is to be able to ferret out a better truth even in the midst of those attempts at obfuscation.   Because politics must involve personal judgments, it will to a certain extent always be subjective and hence there will be no objective truth. But even in politics specific things are said and done .... those can objectively determine truth.  Obscuring those truths is one of the biggest sins of the 2008 campaign. I still thing it is time for us to sharpen our skills of researching even political truths. 
I would suggest that you take that special path as an offshoot to this one, perhaps in another item.
It would be almost a dare to you to find an article about or by a candidate that doesn't have spin & obfuscation in it.

Well i don't know that i could.  What you can tell is which have more spin than others.  But that was not my point ... my point was "The trick is to be able to ferret out a better truth even in the midst of those attempts at obfuscation".

Mark de LA says
seth 2008-09-16 11:34:26 10488
M 2008-09-16 11:16:05 10488
As I have said before & it is worth repeating here the term a better truth is spin in & of itself!

The term "better truth" just assumes that there is no such thing as "absolute truth".  Truth is relative to an agent observer and a context ... no one can stand at a God's eye view and know the absolute truth.  The term just implies that as we mortals strive towards the truth we can  get better and better.   Nothing more nothing less.  It is my way of bringing practical truth back into the dialogue so that we don't need to just throw up our hands and say "everything is spin".  Accept my term, or don't accept it ... but please understand it for what it is and don't call it something that it is not.
I called it what it is! There is only one kind of truth - accept that or not. You should probably move this back onto one of the original "better truth" items.

Seth says
M 2008-09-16 11:51:49 10488
seth 2008-09-16 11:34:26 10488
M 2008-09-16 11:16:05 10488
As I have said before & it is worth repeating here the term a better truth is spin in & of itself!

The term "better truth" just assumes that there is no such thing as "absolute truth".  Truth is relative to an agent observer and a context ... no one can stand at a God's eye view and know the absolute truth.  The term just implies that as we mortals strive towards the truth we can  get better and better.   Nothing more nothing less.  It is my way of bringing practical truth back into the dialogue so that we don't need to just throw up our hands and say "everything is spin".  Accept my term, or don't accept it ... but please understand it for what it is and don't call it something that it is not.
I called it what it is! There is only one kind of truth - accept that or not. You should probably move this back onto one of the original "better truth" items.
This "research item" needs this concept, imho.  Discovering the truth of the matter, is doomed to failure. Move thing around if you want, but to me that is just a bs means of censoring a topic, and mangeling my words out of their intended context. 

Mark de LA says
This is not a place for philosophy & epistemology.  This is the process of research, primarily on the internet & in other media.  If you don't want to grok that topic move it to another item. It's not censure - it's just a question of appropriateness. If you can't agree on what's so from the material perspective & experience then it's time to move on: there's nothing here for you.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-09-17 10:06:07 10488
Strange you would mention mentography.   Did you see my mentographs ( 1 and 2 and others)  related to better truth - a concept that rests on very sound ground - especially when you get automated processes involved? 
Those mentographs are not very helpful. I don't think probability & statistics are very good sensors for the truth unless they are the subjects of the investigation. They have their place, but they say pretty much nothing about individual instances.

Mark de LA says
Read 10504 as well on spin.


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