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Mark de LA says
Until I tested it - i didn't know that private was possible with an open group

Mark de LA says
Well, we can at least have an open group with private items which does NOT make sense. Just means they DON'T show up in the living stream.

Seth says
i removed .groups because it didnt seem to belong in this list

Seth says
I think "an open group with private items" makes perfect sense. Open\closed is just about who gets in and who does not. Private\public is about the items and their visibility to thos not inside. These are tow separate and independant dicotomies.

Mark de LA says
group system items