new button bar



The new button bar has your home room on the right and the common river on the left.  I removed the text on the bottom and put mouse over titles instead.

We are toying with a new metaphor .... you do not sign in or sign out ... no, you enter and leave.  The mouse over on the door now reflects that new metaphor.

Discuss ...

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Seth says
Well ok i'm all for developing a different metaphor here. I just dont get this up one level stuff. This "door" has to do with changing identity, not navigating between folders.

Mark de LA says
Hmmmm.... lost track of the argument in the world of round tuits. Basically want to use something instead of the door (which to me is hokey after seeing a while). Something line an up arrow would be my preference. However it is interpreted concepturally it will fit along with the other two arrows. You will be labeling it with the same mouseover. It is similar in function to the M$ folder with a green arrow on it meaning go up or out of this folder level.

Seth says
I think it would look better if we revoved the hand on .  When the button is this little it is not all that effective.

Seth says
... and without it the door could be made to show up better.

unknown says
Functionally it's enter, leave or enter another group.

unknown says
.. is not yet reflected in the this screen

Seth says
... yes, i will need to propogate the new button bar through the system. am now in the process of rewriting it in common.php so that it will just be a function call wherever and will always show just exactly the same. No more context sensitive button bars. If we really need context sensitive button bars, then that context will need to be groked by the function or passed into it. At the moment i will bet that a context insensitive bar will be better all around.

Mark de LA says
I would like to propose at this time getting rid of the door and having a verticle double-ended arrow in the style of the left and right arrows. You are really going (up or down) to the group level where you choose a group or a different name.

Mark de LA says
Could make the right arrow with a red ? inside == help

Mark de LA says
Please consider changing the mouseover on the door or (preferably my suggestion) to "Enter, Leave or Change Group"

Seth says
... done

Seth says
I would like to propose at this time getting rid of the door and having a verticle double-ended arrow in the style of the left and right arrows. You are really going (up or down) to the group level where you choose a group or a different name.

Well i see how it is going up and out but it is really not the same kind of navigation.  The one is going back in time, looking at old history, the other is entering and leaving a cell, a group.  I don't think we want to confuse the two.  The group boundary is very important.  It is not just navigation. 

Seth says
Perhaps we don't have the metaphor totally right yet. Sign in \ sign out was pretty close, but it was linguististicaly troubling. Leaving an entering a room is not quite right because what is happening is that you are entering a circle of friends ... you are changing identity. ...

Seth says
you are putting on a different mask ... you are dressing for the part ... you are acquiring or loosing privledges ... it is a very social act

Mark de LA says
seth: I would like to propose at this time getting rid of the door and having a verticle double-ended arrow in the style of the left and right arrows. You are really going (up or down) to the group level where you choose a group or a different name.
Well i see how it is going up and out but it is really not the same kind of navigation.  The one is going back in time, looking at old history, the other is entering and leaving a cell, a group.  I don't think we want to confuse the two.  The group boundary is very important.  It is not just navigation. 
2005-09-18 13:38:04

I see it as traversing levels
  • FastBlogIt server
  • Group
  • Author
  • Item
  • Comment        ..... In which case the up and down arrows work

Seth says
.. i dont know ... group and author are a different heirachy than item ... seems to me you are toying with a catagory error. Thee is a heirachy of rooms ... starting item .. > group room ...> domain (living stream) ... > ... internet blogosphere > ... web ...> ... internet ... > ... physical reality ... > upt etc etc

I wanted to diagram that at one point but couldnt find my round tuit

Mark de LA says
Who in real life changes their identity by going thru a door ? You have a mixed metaphor here (except perhaps the notion of crossing the thresshold of initiation).

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