The R-Word

About: youtube - obama bombshell redistribution of wealth audio uncovered

The R-word - is it Redistribution of Wealth or is it Reparations? Is wealth redistribution a codeword for reparations ? Here is a YouTube of a 2001 interview with Barack Obama on Public Radio in Chicago. This should make for some interesting dissection & spinning! Obama doesn't use the reparations word in this video, who is he talking to? what is he talking about this on public radio? This video (Audio actually) should be the basis for some current questions to BHO. Basically he's talking legalistically about how to get redistribution done; through the courts (no); through legislation (?); he holds it to be administratively,eh? Executive branch stuff.   He is right, the Constitution limits government, it doesn't say what the federal government must do for the people.

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  1. wbez
  2. obama
  3. redistributionism
  4. reparations

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Mark de LA says
Obama's 'Redistribution' Constitution; Courts Poised For Takeover By Judicial Left...
source: ... Speaking in July 2007 at a conference of Planned Parenthood, he said: "[W]e need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
... Throw out the law and rule on empathy?



Seth says
What you should do is to hide the visual overlay, the big bold yellow letters that is squeing your mind according to the agenda of the editor.  You might then be able to hear that he was just answering a question about the civil rights movement and rejecting the idea that the objectives of that movement could be accomplished with the courts.  Its a very clever bit of editing.  I don't like it very much because it basically tells a lie. 

And out of what orphus did pull "reparations" ?  Not only did the piece not mention that word, but the concepts are not even connected.  Is that what they got you afraid of ... reparations paid back to the slaves?  Well then by all means vote against Obama ... vote your racist fears. 
You get a big three pukes on this one .

But please don't let my personal instults confuse the issue ... just close your eyes and listen to the audio without reading the yellow letters ... every time you hear the music also watch for what was missed in the context.  Really you should do that exercise.  I watched it through both ways.

Mark de LA says
The R-word is really RACISM. Implementing the soul & spirit of 714 is the cure. If BHO were to acknowledge that in fact 714 covers that ground completely he could not support reparations. Furthermore, he could not tie anything to slavery as compensation no matter what nuances like "spread the wealth around" he might use to do it.
I can support improving all children's educations by transformations such as are discussed in group threefold society, but I can not support throwing more money into a failed public school system. The public school system fails because of those running it now who made bad choices in the past. The public school system fails because of bad teachers & administrators in the past & present (& government tinkerers).  It is not failing because of slavery ...past or otherwise.
 FIX IT!
Make it independent of economics & independent of the rights administration (justice) & government.


Mark de LA says
Well apparently I am not the only one who seems to interpret reparations into the interview. Google has 231,000 articles if you search the term obama reparations speech.  The Drudge report quoted from the YouTube video the following:
source: Barack Obama on Chicago Public Radio WBEZ-FM, 2001: The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society... and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that... MORE... ...
redistributive change to whom? from whom? for what? why? What is the distinction between that and reparations?  (For those who love the Geneva Conventions you might ponder that group punishment for individual errors is prohibited - basically my main objection against reparations.)  This article from Star Bulletin (Chicago?) makes it more clear:
source: ... "I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."
 
... a merry little finger to you for the 3 pukes that got jerked out of you by your partisan, blind knee.  Next time learn how to spell. There is a wealth of things to review in the google link on this subject so for now I am going to .


Mark de LA says
M 2008-10-27 08:28:47 10724
BTW, I began to sift through the google obama reparations speech, but alas! too many were blogs which I began to cast aside.  Then, I realized that I am typing into a blog here at fbi myself & abandoned the whole endeavor.  I think it is worth while getting the candidate, who has not had a press conference in a whole month, for some clarifications on the issue & see if he can get rid of some of the obfuscating nuances.



Mark de LA says
M 2008-10-27 08:38:06 10724
M 2008-10-27 08:37:37 10724
seth 2008-10-27 08:34:34 10724
source: M above
..."he could not support reparations."
 ... nor does he.
BHO nuances & calls them by other things & ties them to class struggles, etc.
He is smart enough to know that, unless he is speaking to the choir like the NAACP he can't get away with it in public.

BTW, I want to hear it from his own mouth in public again at a press conference where many different reporters can clarify the questions & answers - not just another acolyte assuring me that he has the inside insight.

Seth says
M 2008-10-27 08:39:44 10724
M 2008-10-27 08:38:06 10724
M 2008-10-27 08:37:37 10724
seth 2008-10-27 08:34:34 10724
source: M above
..."he could not support reparations."
 ... nor does he.
BHO nuances & calls them by other things & ties them to class struggles, etc.
He is smart enough to know that, unless he is speaking to the choir like the NAACP he can't get away with it in public.

BTW, I want to hear it from his own mouth in public again at a press conference where many different reporters can clarify the questions & answers - not just another acolyte assuring me that he has the inside insight.
I'm pretty sure if he is asked he would say he does not support reparations.   Reparations are a dead issue in this country - except perhaps with a radical fringe.  Your claim is so outlandish that is a non issue.  The fact that you bring it up tells us more about your own fears than it does about Obama.

Mark de LA says
seth
I'm pretty sure if he is asked he would say he does not support reparations.   Reparations are a dead issue in this country - except perhaps with a radical fringe.  Your claim is so outlandish that is a non issue.  The fact that you bring it up tells us more about your own fears than it does about Obama.
Yep, that's what an Obama-juice drinker would say.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-27 09:34:59 10724
Ben Smith has a rebuttal explaining (in summary, but read the whole article) that all Obama is saying here is "you dont achieve stable social change through judicial activism,"something that any conservative should be able to get behind.  Of course right wing bloggers and foxnews is going to twist that to mean the opposite of its intent.  Oh well, they are grabbing at straws. 
Does Ben Smith have the inside track on what is inside Obama's Mind? If not then we had better examine what Obama says & is recorded fairly faithfully. As I read it:
source: ... 40:43 says what the states cant do to you says what the federal govt cant do to you but it doesnt say what the federal govt or state govt mst do on your behalf and that hasnt shifted and i think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that 41:01 the civil rights movement becaem so court focused i think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities 41:12 on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change 41:20 and in some ways we still suffer from that
... Obama somewhat complains that (40:43 into the recording) the "limited government" - he calls the constitution a document of negative liberties - ignoring the preamble:
Wikipedia: ... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
... negative liberties ? they're the essence of Liberty itself.



Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-28 03:48:22 10724
source: M above
Is Obama disagreeing with the U.S. Constitution that he would presumably have to swear to defend & protect against all enemies foreign or domestic?
No. He was a constitutional law professor.  He has sworn oaths to uphold the constitution.
Unfortunately it was an interview for the masses in Chicago on PBS, not a class. That's what it sounds like he was teaching.  Too bad records of such are rather thin. Sorry, I'm not drinking the Obama-juice today.


Seth says
M 2008-10-28 11:56:06 10724
seth 2008-10-28 11:45:48 10724
M 2008-10-28 11:40:53 10724
seth 2008-10-28 11:33:25 10724
source: M above
I guess Dave Chappelle & his show suck too! FUCK YOU!
Don't know havent watched it yet.  But i didn't laugh at the skit - that is a fact.  BTW, i'm glad you finally found the condoms in your size ... if i remember right that was a problem for you.

That's a condom so that I don't get the Obama-juice disease!
Oh i see.  What do you use for your McCain mental clotting problem?
haven't got that one either. I am using common sense by being pro none of the above!

Great!  So how are you going to cast your vote? 

Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-28 11:45:48 10724
M 2008-10-28 11:40:53 10724
seth 2008-10-28 11:33:25 10724
source: M above
I guess Dave Chappelle & his show suck too! FUCK YOU!
Don't know havent watched it yet.  But i didn't laugh at the skit - that is a fact.  BTW, i'm glad you finally found the condoms in your size ... if i remember right that was a problem for you.

That's a condom so that I don't get the Obama-juice disease!
Oh i see.  What do you use for your McCain mental clotting problem?
haven't got that one either. I am using common sense by being pro none of the above!


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-27 21:45:20 10724
For the record, and without any distraction and spin, here is what Obama actually said ...
source: TPM
"You know if you look at the victories and the failures of the Civil Rights movement and its litigation strategy in the Court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I would be okay.

But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical, it didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and the Warren Court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf and that hasn't shifted.

And one of the I think the tragedies of the Civil Rights movement was because the Civil Rights movement became so court focused I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change and in some ways we still suffer from that."


I think it is a really good thing that the founding fathers placed limitations on government. They wanted to remedy break the unbridled taxation & yokes of servitude to King George. I hope we don't begin to believe in another one like King Obama. Is Obama disagreeing with the U.S. Constitution that he would presumably have to swear to defend & protect against all enemies foreign or domestic? He's not arguing in a moot court here! It almost seems as if he is saying he wants to go outside the law to get what he wants.  Again, I think it would be good for him to explain without spin in front of a press conference what he really meant in this interview.


Mark de LA says
Sorry, it (Joe) is exactly what Obama has been working on as a frequent thread from his early days in Chicago. The Chicago south side is his pissing post.  Incidently his community organizing often in concert with Acorn & other organizations clustered to the same purpose used occupying buildings, intimidation & other means to achieve their extortion objectives.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-28 10:43:07 10724
Yep, fuck me, that was not funny.  It is only funny to someone who is a racist pig.  Did you laugh?
I guess Dave Chappelle & his show suck too! FUCK YOU!

Seth says
M 2008-10-28 09:13:31 10724
Sorry, it (Joe) is exactly what Obama has been working on as a frequent thread from his early days in Chicago. The Chicago south side is his pissing post.  Incidently his community organizing often in concert with Acorn & other organizations clustered to the same purpose used occupying buildings, intimidation & other means to achieve their extortion objectives.

Wow, you actually can't distinguish between adjusting the graduated tax schedule and what Obama was doing in Chicago's south side when he had nothing to say about it.  But yes there is a common thread:  looking out for us the people and not for the bankers, Wall street tycoons, and Texan oil barrens.  I doubt that he will be apologizing for it.

Mark de LA says
seth 2008-10-28 09:32:59 10724
M 2008-10-28 09:13:31 10724
Sorry, it (Joe) is exactly what Obama has been working on as a frequent thread from his early days in Chicago. The Chicago south side is his pissing post.  Incidently his community organizing often in concert with Acorn & other organizations clustered to the same purpose used occupying buildings, intimidation & other means to achieve their extortion objectives.

Wow, you actually can't distinguish between adjusting the graduated tax schedule and what Obama was doing in Chicago's south side when he had nothing to say about it.  But yes there is a common thread:  looking out for us the people and not for the bankers, Wall street tycoons, and Texan oil barrens.  I doubt that he will be apologizing for it.
When there are no Wall street tycoons, bankers or Texan oil barrens there will be no jobs & we'll all be working for something like FDR's New Deal government WPA (except where will the government get it's money) the government is not a producer it consumes taxes.

Seth says
source: M above
When there are no Wall street tycoons, bankers or Texan oil barrens there will be no jobs
That is not immediately obvious to me.  The devil, as always, is in the details, but i think that the idea of our jobs cumming from those people is pretty much a myth.  It is the idea that justifies trickle down economics.  That has widened the gulf between the super rich and the middle class.  What seems strange to me is that people like you, who are members of that sinking class, continue to drink the cool aid being served you.

Mark de LA says
I will cast my vote carefully & strategically & secretly.


Mark de LA says
This is definitely not PC, but if you can't laugh at the video or yourself then fuck you!
The Day after Obama Wins it might be Chapelle.


Mark de LA says
M 2008-11-03 22:34:16 10724
Here's some Obama kind of empathy for you:


You might say he redistributed it right back to her.

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