What is Obama Thinking?

About: center for american progress

source: ... Bloomberg News

CAP's president and founder, John Podesta, 59, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, is one of three people running the transition team for president-elect Barack Obama, 47. A squadron of CAP experts is working with them.

CAP, which has 180 staffers and a $27 million budget, devotes as much as half of its resources to promoting its ideas through blogs, events, publications and media outreach.

The center's future was far from certain in 2003, when wealthy donors such as Soros and film producer Stephen Bing gave $10 million or more to fill what they believed was an intellectual void in the Democratic Party and create a vehicle to produce an agenda for the party's eventual return to power.

CAP isn't the only Democratic-leaning research organization in Washington with enhanced cachet after Obama's election.

The 92-year-old Brookings Institution, for example, has advisers in Obama's inner circle, including economist Jason Furman and foreign-policy expert Susan Rice. Others are working either part-time or full-time in the Obama transition.

To help promote its ideas, CAP employs 11 full-time bloggers who contribute to two Web sites, ThinkProgress and the Wonk Room; others prepare daily feeds for radio stations. The center's policy briefings are standing-room only, packed with lobbyists, advocacy-group representatives and reporters looking for insights on where the Obama administration is headed.

... & waiting in the wings is Hillary for Sec'y of State
Maybe we can go here first to find out what Obama is thinking!
I wonder if George Soros's Soros Fund Management LLC gets any bailout money? [for future research]
 
** Change My Ass!

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Comments


Mark de LA says
I am wondering why lefties are still afraid of Sarah Palin? It's probably that she would have beat you guys if it wasn't for McCain! You gotta make sure she never comes back, don't you.
Anyway, Obama talked like an empty suit with just the hope & change thingies.  He didn't have any substance until the last minute.
Anyway, here is CAP's core mission statements. See how much of it sounds familiar.


Mark de LA says
The real question is whether the think tanks' machinery whir & then Obama gets an idea or something else happens.
 

Mark de LA says
seth 2008-11-18 10:52:50 10894
M 2008-11-18 09:51:33 10894
BTW, the original article gives us a clue as to what Bush's think tanks were; (fortunately or not) it is irrelevant now. I thought you would have brought that up but your knee having an orgasm must have melted your mind.

Well we know that AEI was the one primary resource for Bush's serge ... why, well because the Kegan plan was what they ended up doing.  I doubt that any administration is going to be single sourcing their think tanks.  So what?
You should tie down that knee.  Nobody said it was a single source.  The article also mentioned the Brookings Institute which is somewhat larger. BTW, the surge worked & Congress funded it.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-11-18 10:36:48 10894
Thanks for pointing out the source - trust me it was not all that obvious. 

Yep, as you noticed, there are think tanks behind every administration.  CAP may or may not be a primary resource for Obama ... we have no evidence presented here by Edward Chin of Bloomberg on that question.  And that Obama is drawing on resources from the last democratic administration is not at all surprising. So i'm kind of going so what on this whole item.

What i find interesting is that Obama is apparently going with Lincoln's team of rivals stratagy. We have actual evidance of that with the potential appointment of Hillary for secretary of state. I think his appointment for the sec of treasury may (or may not) be even more surprising.
Prolly Paul Volcker (former fed chair) & one of BHO's econ advisors, the guy that white-washed over Kofi Annan's failures in Saddam's Oil for Food Program corruption investigation will be nominated. OTOH, maybe he's smart enough to stay clear of something he might need to fix.

Seth says
M 2008-11-18 11:20:12 10894
The real question is whether the think tanks' machinery whir & then Obama gets an idea or something else happens.
 
Well if that be "the real question", it certainly is an unanswerable one.  It is difficult enough to know where your own ideas come from, let alone the president of the United States.

Most commentators say that Obama is an intellectual and thinks very deeply about matters. We have his history as a law professor, his books, writings, and his lucid explanations of political matters in the campaign to justify an opinion that he will be quite knowledgeable about the issues before him.  There is no evidence that he will be a puppet of a think tank .. none whatsoever.  Strangely enough there is considerable evidance that Palin, should she ever have become president, would have been such a puppet.  What is the evidance? ... just listen to her talk.  If you remember, that was my initial worry about her.  Note we have evidance here about Palin (the way she talks about issues) ... but none there about Obama.  That is my question to you:  what is the evidance that supports the proposition that Obama will be using CAP as a primary source of his ideas?

Mark de LA says
M 2008-11-18 08:14:33 10894
I would have titled this item Obama's Brain, but the fucking apostrophes would have killed the edit with database errors or something.
I wonder why they worked on the old server but not the new one?
One problem with the apostrophe effect is that if you forget and use one in the title or the about box link title your whole edit is flushed & you have to start over; enjoy!


Mark de LA says
BTW, the original article gives us a clue as to what Bush's think tanks were; (fortunately or not) it is irrelevant now. I thought you would have brought that up but your knee having an orgasm must have melted your mind.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-11-18 09:13:10 10894
So from which right wing blog did you copy from to compose this partisan piece?  I'd prefer reading the article it in its original context.
Try following "source" Bloomberg news next time before your knee jerks! And as your knee jerks-off, ask yourself is there anything (besides my own comments) that is not true in the original article?

Mark de LA says
My favorite "progressive", Laura Flanders, apparently now has a new book out & a TV show on the internet Grittv. She's much more entertaining than looking at Hillary or Bill where I have to suppress my gag reflex.
<== G'itmo (latest)
 
Some think that Obama will NOT close Gitmo due to a large reality check needed when he actually has to be responsible for the what happens?
I say that he will because his base of left-wing progressives will bully him into it. He'll pretend to open it under new management & charter. If he brings them back to US shores & the US court system expect there to be frequent Al Queda incidents to attempt to free them; our open system of justice is not conducive to handling militant terrorists.
 

Seth says
M 2008-11-18 13:17:42 10894
I am wondering why lefties are still afraid of Sarah Palin? It's probably that she would have beat you guys if it wasn't for McCain! You gotta make sure she never comes back, don't you.
Anyway, Obama talked like an empty suit with just the hope & change thingies.  He didn't have any substance until the last minute.
Anyway, here is CAP's core mission statements. See how much of it sounds familiar.

My problem with Palin is that the American electorate might just be foolish enough to fall for a total fake ... a concoction ... a myth ... an actress.  One who could only lead the country were she propped up by some right wing group.  She would get elected based upon her electability ... based upon her appeal to certain demographics.  Were she to get elected it would be because of her markerteers, not because of her abilities.  I much prefer Tina Fey ... at least she's truly funny.

I still don't see what your glossy brochure from CAP is suppose to prove.  We could go find ones for the Republican party and then compare those to McCain's stump speeches ... err, maybe not ... all he kept talking about was debasing Obama.

Mark de LA says
My problem begins with Obama being a media creation to start & ends with his spreading the wealth around & things like crony capitalism.


Mark de LA says
CAP's glossy brochure is their mission statement.  It probably sounds wonderful if you don't notice that it's missing details. It sounds like a lot of the pelic that BHO was passing around during the campaign.  It's the implementation details which you can dig out from the website that will give you the Soros slant to things.


Mark de LA says
seth 2008-11-19 09:02:39 10894
M 2008-11-19 00:05:16 10894
My problem begins with Obama being a media creation to start & ends with his spreading the wealth around & things like crony capitalism.

I thought crony capitalism was just invented by  Paulson when he started giving away billions to his cronies in the banking industry ... and now he won't even disclose publicly who he gave the money to. 
The whole matter is disgusting!  The bait & switch is appalling! The RWG is alive & running daily in Congress & nobody is in charge except a bunch of crony capitalists. It's a perfect storm of economic disaster with taxpayers picking up the tab.


Seth says
M 2008-11-19 10:48:17 10894
source: ...
So there is no connection between CAP and your question "What is Obama Thinking?".

...nope! You prolly are too brain-washed to see it. A left wing think tank financed by the Bush Hater Soros & left wing propagandist of moveon.org, is helping the president elect select his cabinet from the pool of left-over Clintonites - THERE IS NO CHANGE! It's the SOS.
I don't get you.  What is the big difference between this discovery of yours and a right wing think tank financed by Clinton haters and right wing propogandists collaborating with Bush.  Your item is just partisan and outside of that partisanship does not inform.  It tells us about you, where you put your attention, it does not inform us about Obama ... we always knew he was progressive.

Seth says
M 2008-11-19 09:22:04 10894
seth 2008-11-19 09:15:34 10894
M 2008-11-19 09:10:47 10894
seth 2008-11-19 08:58:43 10894
M 2008-11-19 00:09:31 10894
CAP's glossy brochure is their mission statement.  It probably sounds wonderful if you don't notice that it's missing details. It sounds like a lot of the pelic that BHO was passing around during the campaign.  It's the implementation details which you can dig out from the website that will give you the Soros slant to things.

My point is that the basis behind this item is just foolishness.  All organizations have mission statements.  If you find the mission statement of CAP lacking that is fine, but it has nothing to do with Obama. 
Your teflon lover is not a god!  If you want to find out or investigate someone who does not reveal his motivations clearly you look at his advisors & the group of people he surrounds himself with. Your lack of interest in such is remarkable.  You must have missed this in the article:
source: ...
CAP's president and founder, John Podesta, 59, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, is one of three people running the transition team for president-elect Barack Obama, 47. A squadron of CAP experts is working with them.
... tell me that CAP has nothing to do with Obama & I will give you the unconsciousness medal you deserve.


Nope i didn't miss that CAP is Podesta's thing.  Now see if you can form in language the answer to the question:  so what?
& I say so what right back to you?

So there is no connection between CAP and your question "What is Obama Thinking?".

Mark de LA says
source: ...
So there is no connection between CAP and your question "What is Obama Thinking?".

...nope! You prolly are too brain-washed to see it. A left wing think tank financed by the Bush Hater Soros & left wing propagandist of moveon.org, is helping the president elect select his cabinet from the pool of left-over Clintonites - THERE IS NO CHANGE! It's the SOS.

Seth says
M 2008-11-19 09:14:21 10894
seth 2008-11-19 09:02:39 10894
M 2008-11-19 00:05:16 10894
My problem begins with Obama being a media creation to start & ends with his spreading the wealth around & things like crony capitalism.

I thought crony capitalism was just invented by  Paulson when he started giving away billions to his cronies in the banking industry ... and now he won't even disclose publicly who he gave the money to. 
The whole matter is disgusting!  The bait & switch is appalling! The RWG is alive & running daily in Congress & nobody is in charge except a bunch of crony capitalists. It's a perfect storm of economic disaster with taxpayers picking up the tab.

Yeah, but then why do you associate this with Obama?  This crony capitalism was more of a Bush administration thingy than anything on the progressive agenda. 

Mark de LA says
M 2008-11-19 09:14:21 10894
seth 2008-11-19 09:02:39 10894
M 2008-11-19 00:05:16 10894
My problem begins with Obama being a media creation to start & ends with his spreading the wealth around & things like crony capitalism.

I thought crony capitalism was just invented by  Paulson when he started giving away billions to his cronies in the banking industry ... and now he won't even disclose publicly who he gave the money to. 
The whole matter is disgusting!  The bait & switch is appalling! The RWG is alive & running daily in Congress & nobody is in charge except a bunch of crony capitalists. It's a perfect storm of economic disaster with taxpayers picking up the tab.

Let me say that the RWG in front of TV cameras will never uncover all the details the public deserves; especially those both in Congress & outside that were responsible for the mortgage meltdown.  Perhaps an "independent" investigative commission s/b appointed by the new president, similar to that which investigated 9-11 causes, with their work done away from the cameras & published in a report .

Mark de LA says
seth 2008-11-19 09:15:34 10894
M 2008-11-19 09:10:47 10894
seth 2008-11-19 08:58:43 10894
M 2008-11-19 00:09:31 10894
CAP's glossy brochure is their mission statement.  It probably sounds wonderful if you don't notice that it's missing details. It sounds like a lot of the pelic that BHO was passing around during the campaign.  It's the implementation details which you can dig out from the website that will give you the Soros slant to things.

My point is that the basis behind this item is just foolishness.  All organizations have mission statements.  If you find the mission statement of CAP lacking that is fine, but it has nothing to do with Obama. 
Your teflon lover is not a god!  If you want to find out or investigate someone who does not reveal his motivations clearly you look at his advisors & the group of people he surrounds himself with. Your lack of interest in such is remarkable.  You must have missed this in the article:
source: ...
CAP's president and founder, John Podesta, 59, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, is one of three people running the transition team for president-elect Barack Obama, 47. A squadron of CAP experts is working with them.
... tell me that CAP has nothing to do with Obama & I will give you the unconsciousness medal you deserve.


Nope i didn't miss that CAP is Podesta's thing.  Now see if you can form in language the answer to the question:  so what?
& I say so what right back to you?


Mark de LA says
Again you are stuck in blind moral equivalence which is not equal.  Obama campaigned on one word "CHANGE" & now he is just implementing it with the old Clinton hangovers. No change at all is happening. Again with the bailouts & free money everyone is standing in line:
... The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a "warm body" democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction.... [O]nce a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader — the barbarians enter Rome.
- Heinlien


Seth says
M 2008-11-19 11:38:17 10894
Again you are stuck in blind moral equivalence which is not equal.  Obama campaigned on one word "CHANGE" & now he is just implementing it with the old Clinton hangovers. No change at all is happening. Again with the bailouts & free money everyone is standing in line:
... The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a "warm body" democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction.... [O]nce a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader �" the barbarians enter Rome.
- Heinlien

It appears that you fault Obama for not going in the direction of CHANGE that you want.  Yet he never promised you a Heinlein democracy.  You do this before he even takes office.  It's like your watching a new video and criticizing it because you expected the titles to be in Times New Roman instead of Times Roman.  Give the guy a break.  Why not wait a year or two, or at least after his first 100 days, and then evaluate the change he does bring (or not bring).  That would be a legitimate critique.

From my perspective the things he has said after election have been right on.  His new website allows direct interaction ... something that we have never had before.  I don't know these people who he is appointing (except perhaps Hillary), so i will be evaluating them based upon what the actually do in office and not what the spin doctors are trying to smear on them in advance.

Me thinks you are just a might early out of the gate here.  Perhaps it is a sympton of listening to too much Limbaugh. 

Mark de LA says
I pointed out earlier that Newt Gingrich has had a website up long before Obama thought of it or was a household word. Apparently you missed it the first time around!
Apparently not everyone in your side is happy with the Clintonized change:
source: ... It's not playing quite as well, however, in some precincts of Obamaland. From his supporters on the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, to campaign aides of the soon-to-be commander-in-chief, there's a sense of ambivalence about giving a top political plum to a woman they spent 18 months hammering as the compromised standard-bearer of an era that deserves to be forgotten.

"These are people who believe in this stuff more than Barack himself does," said a Democrat close to Obama's campaign. "These guys didn't put together a campaign in order to turn the government over to the Clintons."

...


Mark de LA says
Bait & Switch is what I call it. Maybe this Peanuts cartoon says it better!


Mark de LA says
... or maybe it all depends upon what the meaning of the word change is...


Mark de LA says
On top of bait & switch we now have Obama advisors lowering (tempering) expectations; like he's not really the messiah, eh?

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