FUCK Political Correctness (PC)!

~This cartoon obviously refers to the current controversy over Miss California's beliefs about gay marriage. I post it mainly because I hate PC. It is a context which presumes a consensus that things are one way while they are usually in some other; mostly a creation of the M$M.   Current example contexts are global warming, gay behavior, torture, war on terror & racism ..(n-word).   For some even Obama & Bush have large political correctness components. Some comedians like Larry the Cable Guy make a living going opposite to the PC crowd. I guess politicians must be politically correct by definition, OTOH they seem to have to lie a lot as well. I would like to see more Larry & less politicians & M$M. 

Tags

  1. pc
  2. political correctness
  3. wanda sykes
  4. carrie prejean
  5. coulter
  6. fuck pc in the ass

Comments


Seth says
MR 2009-05-19 19:37:36 11956
MR 2009-05-19 19:27:03 11956
It was above his pay grade as it is above yours & mine, but why then assume that death for the fetus is the right choice for it as obama has sanctioned?
It seems to me that it's above most humans pay grade to play god; apparently not abortionists & those that sanction abortion, though. Still, if the mother is willing to reap what she shows (i.e be confronted with the golden rule from the point of view of the terminated fetus) then the state has no business in the matter, including paying for the abortion nor the aftercare. I don't think Obama has ever considered this issue from this point of view nor would he. He characterized getting pregnant as a punishment for promiscuous behavior.

I don't see where anyone has made such a ridiculous assumption that "death for the fetus" would be the right choice.  That is just very wedgie black and white language and is not helpful to the dialogue.  I believe Obama is trying to avoid unwanted pregnancies.  That is the thrust of his policies.  Now i agree that the government paying directly for abortions would be over the line. But Obama does not want more abortions and it is disengenuous to say that he does.   And strangely enough, i have never seen where Obama is currently advocating any such programs -  though i may have missed it.  Bear in mind that organizations like Planned Parenthood do some very necessary work, providing counseling and birth control to many women who would otherwise end up with an unwanted pregnancy posing that dreaded choice.  Cutting off funding to those organizations would probably have the effect of increasing abortions.  So where does support of womens health programs end and direct payment for abortions begin?  I don't know, do you [indepandant of the pro-life propoganda]?

I think that specific knowledge at this point in the dialogue is more productive for reality than wedgie black and white slogans which will go on forever and ever.  

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-14 09:18:25 11956
Does your hatred for PC extend to those who criticize Wanda Sykes's edgy humor?
This is more nested than useful. I think of Sykes as more mean than politically incorrect; like schoolyard bullies sniggering about someone who is not athletic. Perhaps, she is just a shit-headed comic who found herself in the middle of a PC crowd & couldn't help herself. Her wit became shit.  As far as I can tell Rush ignored her. He is often politically incorrect according to M$M & he fights that in others like those in the Obama Dynasty. I prolly had to provide the link for the meaning of the word sniggering to distinguish it from the urban dictionary definition of the term thus being PC (I guess I momentarily hated myself!). I say that political correctness breeds in politics somewhat like syphilis!


Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-14 10:07:12 11956
source: MR above
I think of Sykes as more mean than politically incorrect
Funny, i think of Limbaugh as more mean than politically accurate.  As to his sniggering, Rachel nailed it.  Fact is, all hyperpartisanship aside, Limbaugh deserves Sykes - and Sykes deserves Limbaugh - they are the same kind of entertainers.  There ratings rise and fall based upon their skill in shocking their audience.  So if you get off on them, if they make your laugh, or even if they make you feel self righteous, then by all means consume their products.  I would, however, suggest you get your actual political information, elsewhere.
One sad difference (for you) is that Sykes is a comedian & Limbaugh is a political commentator.  Sykes has a very small audience much less than the one that Michael Moore has & Rush has 20 million. Rush's accuracy rating is in the 99% range according to the Sullivan Group. Sykes is just an outspoken shit head.


Seth says

Thing is equating homosexuality with liberalism is just as stupid as equating narrow mindedness with conservatism.  True probably more homosexuals are liberal, but the reverse is untrue.  Also probably more narrow minded people are conservative ... i'll leave the reverse to your own judgment.  The pivotal edge in understanding the comparison is that liberals value tolerance whereas conservatives are more interested in their wedge issues than they are in tolerance as a virtue.  Based upon that we can understand why, if you are a conservative and a homosexual, you are probably still in the closet - not so with your liberal friends.  Carrie Prejean was right to stick to her beliefs and the gays who are taunting her suck big time, really!  But that has nothing to do with liberalism's value of tolerance - in fact it contradicts it.  Ann Coulter needs a lesson in making clear distinctions, but gawd i wish i could write sentences like: "She is blazing across the sky, as impotent nose-pickers jockey for a piece of her reflected light by hurling insults at her", which is actually true ... i guess i'm one of them.

Mark de LA says
MR 2009-05-15 06:39:54 11956
     Somewhere way back we agreed that generalization & particularization didn't necessarily carry over properties from item to class & visa-versa. Tolerance is no more a liberal value than a conservative value. In many cases some liberals show extreme intolerance; particularly to the views of some conservatives. Ann Coulter has mastered the art of the witty insult. I would prefer that insults not be necessary, but sometimes it makes the art of commentary more fun; proving nothing! 
     Frankly, if there were a Golden Rule party (probably politically an oxymoron) I would join it; notwithstanding that way of being would belong to the spiritually free domain of threefoldness. At least you would have a principle that most people could grok on reflection. But, even that has it's complexities requiring more evolution before zenith.

Nice picture, !
Apparently others believe a lot in the Golden Rule 10878 or follow this link to Charter for Compassion.

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-14 12:09:05 11956
MR 2009-05-14 11:54:06 11956
seth 2009-05-14 11:35:08 11956
Another "political commentator"/comedian weighs in on the Carrie Prejean's alleged trespass ...
source: Ann Coulter
You'd be better off in a real burqa than under the authority of a liberal American male.
....
Now, another beautiful Christian has thrown off the liberal burqa, thereby inciting mass hysteria throughout the liberal establishment. Prejean doesn't care. She is blazing across the sky, as impotent nose-pickers jockey for a piece of her reflected light by hurling insults at her.
... She leaves with quite a graphic image there... very entertaining!  And if you ignore that the gay attack on a woman righteous opinion has nothing to do with Coulter's favorite liberal whipping boys, you will actually be entertained.  And if you are a Coulter fan you will go out on your blog and think you were informed.

Your sarcasm notwithstanding, Coulter is a different kind of entertainer than Rush. She has a sharper wit & sharper edge on her knife. I find her amusing a lot of the time just because she is a woman with a loud mouth with which she likes to assault liberals.  I would contrast her with Janeane Garofalo who just has a sharp knife & is a half-wit.  I would not go to either for the full story on anything.  Rush OTOH, cites his sources for his articles on his website & often plays direct quotes right out of the mouths of Obama & his cabal.
Well they are both pees in the same pod, your puppy love for Rush notwithstanding.
... likewise yours for Obama notwithstanding; this becoming perilously close to couplet begetting on this item lacking the essence of truth.

Mark de LA says
Even the term rebrand obscures it's purpose which is to confuse, reinvent or pretend that something is different from what it really is or was through advertising techniques.


Mark de LA says
Well, many credit Janet Napolitano, the head of Obama's Department of Homeland Security with the reframe from terrorism to man caused disasters. See this list from Google. Or read her statement
source: ... In my speech, although I did not use the word “terrorism,” I referred to “man-caused” disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
 
...bullshit!

Mark de LA says
Well I agree of course, but how in anyone's perverted idea of the Golden Rule (or Obamas')can one ignore the point of view of the baby in the womb as it gets it's life aborted before it gets the chance to live?

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-19 08:47:17 11956
MR 2009-05-18 11:36:35 11956
Well I agree of course, but how in anyone's perverted idea of the Golden Rule (or Obamas')can one ignore the point of view of the baby in the womb as it gets it's life aborted before it gets the chance to live?
Simple, i don't want you to impose your metaphysical assumptions on me, so i won't impose mine on you. 
A baby in the womb is not a metaphysical assumption!!!!!!

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-18 10:57:20 11956
MR 2009-05-18 10:36:49 11956
Well, many credit Janet Napolitano, the head of Obama's Department of Homeland Security with the reframe from terrorism to man caused disasters. See this list from Google. Or read her statement
source: ... In my speech, although I did not use the word “terrorism,” I referred to “man-caused” disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
 
...bullshit!
So what is bullshit?

Anyway i have always anticipated that Bush's "war on terror" would be rebranded.  It is an abominable loaded term.  Eventually they will find ways to talk about the same events in a different context.  Perhaps language which emphasizes security and intel ... more Law and Order and less Jack Bauer.   But, if the Taliban win in Pakistan,  or if nukes materalize in Iran, we will have a real war on our hand,  that will be truly scary, but "war on terror" will still not apply.
~
Well, a war on terror is just as silly as a war on drugs - one is an emotion and the other is a substance used to cure diseases &/or get high. Wars, as many have said, have the purpose to kill people & break things as an instrument of political/socio-economic force & power.  The terms are memes to gather a lot of people as a taskforce to address something that the administrations in power want to happen & to sell the same to the people.


Seth says
MR 2009-05-18 11:07:52 11956
seth 2009-05-18 10:57:20 11956
MR 2009-05-18 10:36:49 11956
Well, many credit Janet Napolitano, the head of Obama's Department of Homeland Security with the reframe from terrorism to man caused disasters. See this list from Google. Or read her statement
source: ... In my speech, although I did not use the word “terrorism,” I referred to “man-caused” disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
 
...bullshit!
So what is bullshit?

Anyway i have always anticipated that Bush's "war on terror" would be rebranded.  It is an abominable loaded term.  Eventually they will find ways to talk about the same events in a different context.  Perhaps language which emphasizes security and intel ... more Law and Order and less Jack Bauer.   But, if the Taliban win in Pakistan,  or if nukes materalize in Iran, we will have a real war on our hand,  that will be truly scary, but "war on terror" will still not apply.
~
Well, a war on terror is just as silly as a war on drugs - one is an emotion and the other is a substance used to cure diseases &/or get high. Wars, as many have said, have the purpose to kill people & break things as an instrument of political/socio-economic force & power.  The terms are memes to gather a lot of people as a taskforce to address something that the administrations in power want to happen & to sell the same to the people.

Well said .

In other administration branding, Obama adopts MR's favorite slogan ...
source: Obama's speech at Notre Dame commencement
For if there is one law that we can be most certain of, it is the law that binds people of all faiths and no faith together. It's no coincidence that it exists in Christianity and Judaism; in Islam and Hinduism; in Buddhism and humanism. It is, of course, the Golden Rule — the call to treat one another as we wish to be treated. The call to love. The call to serve. To do what we can to make a difference in the lives of those with whom we share the same brief moment on this Earth.
... well said there too .

Mark de LA says
& back on topic....(remember the topic?) someone's inventing new words to use to sell the American public on the global climate change boondoggle:
source: ... (New York Times)

Instead of grim warnings about global warming, the firm advises, talk about “our deteriorating atmosphere.” Drop discussions of carbon dioxide and bring up “moving away from the dirty fuels of the past.” Don’t confuse people with cap and trade; use terms like “cap and cash back” or “pollution reduction refund.”

...The answer, Mr. Perkowitz said in his presentation at the briefing, is to reframe the issue using different language. “Energy efficiency” makes people think of shivering in the dark. Instead, it is more effective to speak of “saving money for a more prosperous future.” In fact, the group’s surveys and focus groups found, it is time to drop the term “the environment” and talk about “the air we breathe, the water our children drink.”
...(fuck 'em) ecoMemes from EcoAmerica


Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-19 09:59:01 11956
MR 2009-05-19 09:27:46 11956
seth 2009-05-19 09:08:46 11956
Again with the semantic confusion ...
source: MR above
A baby in the womb is not a metaphysical assumption!!!!!!
... that a baby is in the womb, is the metaphysical assumption. 

You should go back to highschool and learn where babies come from!

I know where babies come from, they come from sperms and eggs.  Now for my metaphysical assumption: ... preventing sperm from having a chance to live is murder.  No more blow jobs!! 

I hope you like my metaphysical assumption.

You are really confused! You really do have to go back to high school & learn how babies are made. It takes both a sperm & an egg to do the job (the rest of the sperm die except the one that makes it to the egg). In the natural physiology of living a human body's cells die & are created again & again - sperm cells too! Following your perverted logic you would have to outlaw life (& wet dreams as well) to preserve life; as well as conception since the sperms die that are not part of the conception.
~~~~~~your argument disintegrates upon touching it like a million year old fossil made out of talcum powder~~~~~

Mark de LA says
crisping it (the abortion thingy) up:
 

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-19 13:16:14 11956
So clarifying my metaphysical assumption, it is immoral to interfere at any point in the natural, God given, precess of reproduction.  Once the boy sees that glint in her eye, we must let nature take its course.  But, yes, maybe we should allow blow jobs ... like Maharajah,  they lead to the hard stuff. 

Illustrated by my ridiculous example, there is my actual point, which is:  all metaphysical assumptions can seem quite arbitrary to those who do not choose to believe.  Imposing your metaphysical assumptions on me is breaking the Golden Rule, because i am quite sure that you do not want me to impose mine on you.  As you yourself have observed, government has no place in this choice. 
Getting off the metaphysical kick as you should do would assist you in groking that it is not about metaphysics but about pregnancy & childbirth. Those are real things. Anyway, Obama has said it is above his pay grade to decide those things. But, apparently it is within his pay grade to decide that death is OK for fetuses & ones that survives abortion anyway !  You have muddied the waters with your rail & rant against metaphysics & ignored the point of view of the foetus whether it is conscious or not; doubt totally ignoring metaphysics should provide for the choice of doing nothing.   It is against the golden rule not to do that. Obama's use of the Golden Rule is specious. He apparently only calls for it to get something from the graduates in his audience while still maintaining his own luxurious lifestyle as president.

Mark de LA says
MR 2009-05-19 19:27:03 11956
It was above his pay grade as it is above yours & mine, but why then assume that death for the fetus is the right choice for it as obama has sanctioned?
It seems to me that it's above most humans pay grade to play god; apparently not abortionists & those that sanction abortion, though. Still, if the mother is willing to reap what she shows (i.e be confronted with the golden rule from the point of view of the terminated fetus) then the state has no business in the matter, including paying for the abortion nor the aftercare. I don't think Obama has ever considered this issue from this point of view nor would he. He characterized getting pregnant as a punishment for promiscuous behavior.


Mark de LA says
It was above his pay grade as it is above yours & mine, but why then assume that death for the fetus is the right choice for it as obama has sanctioned?

Seth says
MR 2009-05-19 15:51:18 11956
seth 2009-05-19 13:16:14 11956
So clarifying my metaphysical assumption, it is immoral to interfere at any point in the natural, God given, precess of reproduction.  Once the boy sees that glint in her eye, we must let nature take its course.  But, yes, maybe we should allow blow jobs ... like Maharajah,  they lead to the hard stuff. 

Illustrated by my ridiculous example, there is my actual point, which is:  all metaphysical assumptions can seem quite arbitrary to those who do not choose to believe.  Imposing your metaphysical assumptions on me is breaking the Golden Rule, because i am quite sure that you do not want me to impose mine on you.  As you yourself have observed, government has no place in this choice. 
Getting off the metaphysical kick as you should do would assist you in groking that it is not about metaphysics but about pregnancy & childbirth. Those are real things. Anyway, Obama has said it is above his pay grade to decide those things. But, apparently it is within his pay grade to decide that death is OK for fetuses & ones that survives abortion anyway !  You have muddied the waters with your rail & rant against metaphysics & ignored the point of view of the foetus whether it is conscious or not; doubt totally ignoring metaphysics should provide for the choice of doing nothing.   It is against the golden rule not to do that. Obama's use of the Golden Rule is specious. He apparently only calls for it to get something from the graduates in his audience while still maintaining his own luxurious lifestyle as president.
You can't ignore the metaphysical assumption here because that is exactly where pro-lifers and pro-choicers disagree.  They disagree about when the process becomes  a person.  The pro-life faction arbitrarilyassume it is conception ... the pro-choice faction arbitrarily assume it is the third trimester.  My example assumed it was when the boy meets the girl.  The only way, one is right, and the other one is wrong, is to put the decision in a metaphysical context.  Ther is no science that can tell.  There is no secular ethics that can tell.   Obama made the right call when he said it was above his pay grade, your insistance on again misrepresenting his intentions regarding fetuses which survive, notwithstanding.

Mark de LA says
Snotty words such as wedgie (& other name calling of yours, Seth) make your part of the dialogue next to worthless. The death for the fetus is de facto from Obama since he supports abortion however much he likes to pretend to straddle the issue & does nothing pro life to stop it. He could lessen abortions by pulling all government funds for such much faster than talking.  He would lose his support from the pro choice crowd if he did that. His record in Illinoise of votes for abortion seal the deal.
 
If abortion is none of the government's business then private funding must take over.  Philanthropists like George Soros & maybe Bill Gates can afford to spend their own dollars on one of their favorite issues.
~
Again, how do you find a common ground between life & death?

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-20 10:51:04 11956
source: MR above
Again, how do you find a common ground between life & death?
Well based upon your last comment and your continued black and white sloganizing, no, there appears to be no common ground between us.  Too bad because embedded in my last comment was a major concession to you side ... it could have been a starting point.  Yep, this is the point where i exit the loop. 
~
The answer is simple -
There is NO common ground between the choices of life & death. (unless your are an Islamist or fanatic of some kind.)
~
It's good that you exited now since this thread belongs on something else as part perhaps of the abortion tagroom.

Seth says
seth 2009-06-10 14:25:59 11956
Just to update the carrie prejean room:
source: Foxnews
Less than a month after being told by Donald Trump that she can keep her Miss California crown, Carrie Prejean was fired on Wednesday.

In a release first obtained by FOXNews.com, K2 Productions, the independent producers of the Miss California USA pageant, under license from Miss Universe, cited continued breach of contract issues as the reason for Prejean's firing.

"This was a decision based solely on contract violations," Keith Lewis, executive director of K2 Productions, said in the release. "After our press conference in New York we had hoped we would be able to forge a better working relationship. However, since that time it has become abundantly clear that Carrie has no desire to fulfill her obligations under our contract and work together.”
... Not that i have a dog in this race ... i just like to keep things updated.  Fox news published some of the emails prior to her firing which make semi interesting reading in a prurient kind of way.  This lady obviously has a mind of her own, the pageant should find a way to respect it.  LOL, apparently they are only used to dumb blonds.
Update 8/31/2009
source: TMZ Carrie Prejean Sues for Religious Discrimination

Prejean claims the Miss Cali people "conspired to get rid of her" beginning on April 21st -- when she said on the "Today" show that she would rather be "biblically correct than politically correct."

Mark de LA says
& to bring us up to date Huck Finn by Mark Twain censors N-word more at Google.


C says
 I wonder when the UN will request that the country of Niger change its name. Yep, I realize that the n-word has 2 g's. OTOH, some councilman was fired for using the word niggardly . I am less worried these days about the color of one's skin than the thinness of it. 
Otoh(2) there is a beer (which I have had many times in Mexican restaurants) which also might need it's name censored:
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