Beyond News Fronts

I will continue to encourage the extraction & definition of news fronts. We may never know the actual beginning of a story nor necessarily detect an old news story that resurfaces again in a seemingly new incarnation.  News fronts are not all there is on the road to perfect understanding of current events. Other factors are things like historical perspectives, individual biographies, and an extraction of the core of the current event itself. Blogs don't usually do the latter. What they do do is raise more questions & points of view which might never show up in the M$M due to the propensity of such for sound bytes & film at 11. Quick analysis, often shallow, is better to sell the news hours than question marks.  In fact that is why so much disinformation is propagated that has to be revised endlessly before the news front blows away. 2339 was the beginning of my model for gathering the news of a current event.  The model was of a database which would improve it's grasp of the truth by updates at each level of a news current event as time went on until such makes the current event into de facto history. This may or not develop from something variously called the semantic web. Like when I have an unfulfilled question in my mind I want to traverse the information space & gather a complete picture for my inquiry with all the ultimate questions answered. 

Tags

  1. news fronts
  2. event log
  3. event database
  4. semantic web

Comments


Seth says
Well yes an event data base would be a good idea.  Perhaps a project like Wikipedia could gather and maintain the db.  You could also use RDF and you could feed that from with RDFa markup made in news articles and blogs and from statements written in a web form just the way Wikipedia grew.  The RDF could be backed by a SQL server storing what i would suggest would be quads.  Sites hosting the db could share it with each other via some of the ideas developed under sticky cyber molecules.  I'm sure that there are several fine event vocabularies already available to deploy.  Anybody could browse and search the events on the web with a normal browser and with no special knowledge of cyberjargon.  Too bad that's not all just going to happen.

Mark de LA says
As an example, there is some information left out of the current news front 12225 in historic perspective about Leon Panetta, the CIA director.

Source: ... But, as The Washington Times' Eli Lake reported last week, during Mr. Panetta's tenure as White House chief of staff in the mid-1990s the Clinton administration accelerated a practice known as "extraordinary renditions" - kidnapping terror suspects and sending them without formal judicial proceedings to third countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have far less than a stellar human-rights record.
Mr. Obama said that the former congressman had dealt with intelligence in daily briefings "at the very highest levels." Well, it was on Mr. Panetta's watch that the Clinton administration expanded use of "extraordinary rendition" to lock up terrorists.

Talaat Fuad Qassim, a leader of al-Gamaa Islamiya - the Egyptian terrorist organization founded by Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's second-in-command - was subjected to extraordinary rendition from Bosnia in 1995. He was held aboard a U.S. Navy vessel in the Adriatic Sea and then transferred to Egypt, a country that human-rights groups and the State Department accuse of using electric shocks to torture detainees. Another prisoner, Hani al-Sayegh, a member of Saudi Hezbollah, was suspected of involvement in the June 1996 bombing of Khobar Towers in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, in which 19 U.S. airmen died. Sayegh was handed over to U.S. authorities by Canada and transferred to Saudi Arabia in 1997.

...With this broadening perspective, probably a cluster-fuck in itself since "torture" has been redefined & politicized, how does the news front in 12225 look? Does Panetta & possibly some on the intelligence committees need some more rehabilitation by beating up on the Bush-Cheny so that they can keep their left-wing credentials? Will this make Pelosi happy again?


Seth says
MR 2009-07-13 15:56:08 12231
seth 2009-07-13 15:30:29 12231
source: MR above
As an example, there is some information left out of the current news front [item 12225] in historic perspective about Leon Panetta, the CIA director.
Well i certainly would not include ancient history about Panetta in the current event being tracked in 12225.  But if there were actual events that Panetta was involved in then they would show in the db by retrieving all events involving Panetta. 
Like they say in the courtroom dramas on TV - it goes to the credibility of the source. You cited Panetta originally. That's why the db is needed over just a newsfront cycle. The newscycle on this one is ancient history related to immediate reactions of the CIA after 9/11 - 2001. Maybe the real story is why Panetta leaked it now & what is the newsfront designed to take the public's limited attention away from.
You missed the point.  The data base contains all events ... or as many events as people have the courage to record there.  If the ancient history about Panetta actually does qualify as events, then they should be recorded in the database too.  And they can be retrieved by requesting all events involving Panetta.  But you wouldn't record all that old history in the record of the event refered to in 12225.  Now if there is some established relationship between the old events and the current events, then, and only then, you have something to record in current event.  Thats the thing about an event data base ... it only contains events and their relationships.  If it doesn't qualify as a event, then it doesnt exist in the database.  If it is just somone's idel speculation that there is a relationship to history, then i guess it could only go in as some relationship like (MR specualtes-that (EventA is-secretly-related-to EventB)).  But if it were me, i wouldnt allow that kind of stuff.

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-07-13 15:30:29 12231
source: MR above
As an example, there is some information left out of the current news front [item 12225] in historic perspective about Leon Panetta, the CIA director.
Well i certainly would not include ancient history about Panetta in the current event being tracked in 12225.  But if there were actual events that Panetta was involved in then they would show in the db by retrieving all events involving Panetta. 
Like they say in the courtroom dramas on TV - it goes to the credibility of the source. You cited Panetta originally. That's why the db is needed over just a newsfront cycle. The newscycle on this one is ancient history related to immediate reactions of the CIA after 9/11 - 2001. Maybe the real story is why Panetta leaked it now & what is the newsfront designed to take the public's limited attention away from.

Mark de LA says
The point was subtle.  Your 12225 was a news front. When you back away from the immediate tempest in a tea pot & look at one of the participants' history you get a different picture. That was my justification for more than just the news front like a database & query front end.


Seth says
Yeah i'm just looking at it from a data processing perspective.  I'm not so sure you see it like that. 

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