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RealClearPolitics: ... We might be on the verge of another Jacksonian moment: a time when the people awake from their slumber, angrily exercise their sovereign authority, and mercilessly fire the leaders who have for too long catered to the elites rather than average people. The first time this happened was in 1828 - when the people rallied to the cause of Old Hickory to avenge the "Corrupt Bargain" of four years prior. It's happened several times throughout the centuries. Most relevant to today, it happened time and again in the 1880s and 1890s, as the people hired then fired one Republican and Democratic majority after another in search of leaders who could attend to the people's interests instead of the special interests. That age saw the birth of the Populist Party. It was a time when so many felt so disgruntled by the political process that young William Jennings Bryan - just thirty-six years old and with only two terms in the House - came within a hundred thousand votes of the presidency.
... There are precidents for throwing the bums out!
Congress: No democracy if we can't fire them.
VOID (Vote Out Incumbents Democracy): ...

The only logical and intelligent response is to vote out our current ineffective representative. To do that we must vote for their challenger, regardless of whether the challenger will be an improvement, or not. I know, at first this doesn't make sense. But, think about it, for a second.

If the Democratic and Republican parties both watch 40 or 50% of their party's Congress persons lose their seats in one election, how could they possibly ignore that and the voting public, any longer? The truth is, they couldn't, and won't. They will immediately conduct polls to find out what the voters want, and work their tails off getting it, in order to insure they are not one of the next to get voted out of office, especially after only one term in office.

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Mark de LA says
seth 2009-12-22 12:58:39 13075
source: M channeled above ...

The only logical and intelligent response is to vote out our current ineffective representative. To do that we must vote for their challenger, regardless of whether the challenger will be an improvement, or not. I know, at first this doesn't make sense. But, think about it, for a second.

If the Democratic and Republican parties both watch 40 or 50% of their party's Congress persons lose their seats in one election, how could they possibly ignore that and the voting public, any longer?


Well after a second's though it still doesn't make any sense.  Oh, sure it would get their attention; but does that really change anything for the better?  We could get their attention by setting ourselves on fire on the capitol steps too like the Buddhists did; but does irrational behavior move the world in the intended direction .... i think not.  I vote for rational behavior, not insanity.

.. but you voted for the people who are giving us the insane health care bankrupting bill!

C says
The net of it is that instead of this:
which came from this:
you might get representative government where the reps actually listen to the people & are not just in a hurry to shred the constitution like this to get a bill passed which bankrupts the nation, won't give anything to the people for 3-4 years but takes from them & solves no problems except incumbency & who gets to be the ruling elite.
Ask yourself why the stock market liked the insurance companys outlook! Ask yourself why the AMA liked the deal they got. Ask yourself why when everyone else is dealing with Christmas why they have to pass this turd in the dead of night!


Mark de LA says
Kentucky's Answer to Unconstitutional Federal Actions needs to be read by all of you voters who think that the federal government is the be all - end all of your freedom.
Then American Thinker blog: ...
Foremost of the forgotten principles is the fact that the states were fully autonomous before uniting under a contract known as the Constitution. Each state voluntarily gave up a portion of its sovereignty, but never surrendered it completely, in joining the United States. Thus, every state is a party to the Constitution, with the other states as co-parties. Here are some excerpts from Jefferson's Kentucky Resolutions:

1. Resolved, That the several States composing, the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution ... they constituted a general government for special purposes - delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government.
... There are 4 more excerpts of Jefferson's thinking on the Kentucky Resolutions worth reading & these may provide the thinking person with a reationale for removing the incumbents at the next election. There are 9 resolutions to the 1798 document.

Mark de LA says
Looking to the government for help for something that the government has caused through its incompetence is an absurd notion.  Government has no money of its own.  It takes from the fruits of labor of those who are good at doing things that people want & gives of the fruits of those labors to people who are bureaucrats & incopetents at doing things thinking that they are solving problems & helping! The bullshit is that the people think that help is going on!
 

C says
seth 2010-01-09 13:23:33 13075
source: Mr above
... needs to be read by all of you voters who think that the federal government is the be all - end all of your freedom.
Well i think voters look to their government for "help", not freedom ... me thinks that is a poor choice of words to introduce such a topic.
You would be surprised by how many people think that the Constitution, as a vehicle of the newly formed government, granted the rights in the Bill of Rights rather than the other way around, i.e. the founders wrote the Constitution to limit government & detail what things the government could not touch &/or do along with a structure of checks & balances !
 

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