The DADT Vortex

About: - lawmakers question move to accelerate vote on DADT

IMHO the military's purpose is to kill people & break things to protect this country from enemies foreign & domestic controlled by civilian politicians who are sworn to protect & defend the U.S. Constitution & execute the military & political will to do so.  IMHO, it is a testosterone kind of thingy. What's in it for those who are in the middle of a confused miss-match of their genitals with their chromosomes with their sexual desires?


  1. dont ask dont tell
  2. dadt
  3. gay cherries
  4. cherries jubilee


Mark de LA says
IOW, the military doesn't just go around killing people & breaking things on their own - they are under the civilian control of the president (& Congress).

Mark de LA says
seth 2010-05-27 05:27:29 13820
It's hard to parse your opinion above.  One thing i do get from it is that you believe that one of the military's purposes is to protect "this country" from its civilian politicians.  IMHO, that is not one of the purposes of the American military.  That purpose must be met, in this democracy, by The People themselves.  Sorry if i have mis-parsed your opinion.
     All I am asserting is that the military is under the control of civilians (politicians, mostly) as stated in the Constitution. Specifically the president, who is a civilian, is the commander-in-chief.
     Politicians are ideally under the control of the people in a truly representative democratic-republic. That this appears not to be so these days is a matter for the next election!

The military oath when you join the armed forces is:
source: ... I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Mark de LA says
seth 2010-05-27 08:13:58 13820
The texture of this context is not appealing to me.
I'm not sure what you don't like - the napkin under the cherries? - the fact that the military kills people & breaks things? - the question asked of gays? ..... or you don't like my fucking cherries?

Mark de LA says
seth 2010-05-27 17:13:28 13820
source:  The Washington Post email News Alert: Key Senate committee passes legislation that could end 'don't ask, don't tell'  06:43 PM EDT Thursday, May 27, 2010

The Senate Armed Services Committee voted 16 to 12 Thursday to repeal the controversial policy banning openly gay men and lesbians from serving in the military. The measure includes a provision ensuring that no change would take effect until after the Pentagon completes a study about its impact on troops, due to Congress Dec. 1.  The House is expected to vote on an identical measure late Thursday night or Friday. Lawmakers there expect it to be approved, and the full Senate would vote on it next month.

This is another case of Obama & the Senate ramming through things without a thorough study while they still have the votes rather than after the election when they know they won't! What's the hurry? This IS similar to passing healthcare without knowing what was in the bill! (MORE ON THAT LATER)