Leviathan vs God



Hobbes's Leviathan is better analogy of the relationship between an individual human and what that human makes as he or she becomes useful in society than the analogy of man to God.

See also Seth's Conjecture.

Tags

  1. leviathan
  2. seths conjecture
  3. god
  4. 1642-1651

Comments


Seth says
M 2011-02-11 07:47:07 14951
Cute, but better than what? Infinity? Eternal? Old bearded white guy? ... & now the Internet?

It is a better story.  The Leviathan includes you ... biologically as a cell in the body of a vast being in which the effect of your life matters ... in the old story God is apart from you ... abstracted from you just loving you or whatever and looking that you do good or evil.

Seth says
M 2011-02-11 11:04:39 14951
Your Leviathon satisfies that old feeling-need to belong,eh?

Well yes that is a big part of it.  The story answers a big question that i have had all my life:  For what do you do what you do?  The old story does not answer that question. 

C says
I don't particularly like the analogy & model of an anthill or beehive for mankind. RS used the cells of the body as an analogy for individual beings serving a more collective purpose. What is interesting is that embryology shows where that whole body began with a fertilized egg & cellular division & specialization via DNA & other influences.  A whole bunch of cells didn't just decide to come together & form a human physical body. The design pre-exists!

Seth says
I like the cells of the body as an analogy too. 

In the case of a single human, you could truly say that the design pre-exists.  In the case of a whole ecosystem evolving over time, i doubt that the design pre-exists.  Me thinks the Leviathan is more the latter than the former.

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