Funny spam

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This is one that got threw the gmail spam filter.  The funny part is who sent it ... bruce.lane@ripfreak.com. 

Tags

  1. email
  2. spam
  3. funny
  4. phishing
  5. trust

Comments


Si says
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 11:43:20 [item 15184#41296]
I haven’t a clue as to how this got here. I did not click on anything with her pic or whatever.  The most recent thingy was that windmill post on facebook – maybe that was it.
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 11:44:28 [item 15184#41297]
I did not read my email today.
That has happened to lots of people I know. It normally happens through phishing. Some process initiated via email or elsewhere tricks you into entering your gmail password in a place where it is not actually gmail … then they use your password to access your gmail and get your address book. They rarely do anything else. It’s your address book they want. Then they send spam to everyone in your book. But it can be days, weeks, months later that they actually use the addresses … so it may not be something you did recently.

Mark de LA says
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 11:43:20 [item 15184#41296]
I haven’t a clue as to how this got here. I did not click on anything with her pic or whatever.  The most recent thingy was that windmill post on facebook – maybe that was it.
seth@niche 2016-01-07 11:46:23 [item 15184#41298]
yeah it wasn’t anything that you did … probably some gremlin associated “Mark Russell” to my gmail contact list… and thought i would just click on that link.  i look at this stuff pretty closely … especially because i don’t get many emails from you wink
 
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 11:48:10 [item 15184#41299]
like
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 11:49:45 [item 15184#41301]
This does, however raise a question about authentication of groups, domain groups & roving ID’s at some point, eh?
nathan@fbi 2016-01-07 11:52:29 [item 15184#41302]
It does?
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 12:00:59 [item 15184#41303]
Doesn’t it if we use emails?
nathan@fbi 2016-01-07 12:05:33 [item 15184#41304]
In what way? How would the system sending you an email with a new password in it, or any other notification be related to this?
IDK – apparently this proves that someone can send you an email from many different places & different ways. The spam was just one. Someone claimed to be me sent Seth an email. I leave the bits & bytes to those who like to play with them.

Si says
The only thing that is not reliable in the model is that you don’t have an https certificate. If you were using https all would be completely secure. Without it anyone with a laptop or a phone can sniff your traffic at any coffee shop or public place and snag your passwords etc. When you have serious customers, you should purchase an https certificate.

There is still the outstanding well known issues with the code itself. Security review is still on the list. But that’s a different issue and not to be talked about further here.
 

Mark de LA says
seth 2016-01-07 13:23:21 [item 15184#41306]
with email authentication usually it’s the link that matters and that link only lasts so long.  you only get the link if you have control of the email account.  hard to spoof the link, because there is note on the server expecting you to come in, and you need to come in relatively soon.   the only way to fool it, is to intercept the email in the short time frame.   in essence you are passing along the secured identity of your email account to a website.  i do believe it is the go-to method to reauthenticate yourself to a website … i have used it many many times all over the net. haven’t heard any talk about it not being unreliable. 
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 13:50:34 [item 15184#41308]
It is also nice to try to fool a bot with a captcha . I ran into one the other day which had a matrix over a picture that issued an English language simple task to be perform & answer the question.yes
 
nathan@fbi 2016-01-07 13:54:07 [item 15184#41309]
Captcha is not needed here. We use javascript technology that is far more effective than captcha.
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 14:21:37 [item 15184#41310]
Javascript can tell the difference between a bot and a human? 
nathan@fbi 2016-01-07 16:45:06 [item 15184#41315]
yes.
mark@fbi 2016-01-07 16:46:14 [item 15184#41316]
Which universe did you disappear into?laughing
nathan@fbi 2016-01-07 16:46:47 [item 15184#41317]
Lego.
like

Seth says
seth@niche 2016-01-07 11:21:00 [item 15184#41295]
i just got spammed from Mark Russell …

of course these kind of email lures happen all the time.  

just reported here because i can.

seth 2016-01-09 16:54:07 [item 15184#41405]
Ok here is an example of how i am talking about trust in this article [title How scripts can be written?].  I suggest you do not click on the address in my email pictured above,  and that if you want to see some funny pictures of people with snot coming out of their nose, then do click on http://bit.ly/1ZUdNWK .  Now why would you not click on the first link, but feel confident in clicking on the second?  Well just because you trust me to tell you the truth about things like this. 
nathan@fbi 2016-01-09 17:03:48 [item 15184#41406]
I am just saying that trust the way you indicate it there is an outdated concept from the last millennium, the dark ages basically. Humanity is struggling to understand that they don’t need to trust based on something, they need to grant trust from their own being. I would be happy to help explain to people how to use their inner guidance … which is where true well being flows from. I do not feel compelled to help people prolong the fear based ideas around trust they have picked up in living in these times.

This should be okay, because your real desires are not really around trust, they are around people being able to do really cool things. I suggest focusing on that and not on things with a fear basis like trust. Then people who are leaving trust issues behind will be predominate here … and those with trust issues will still find ways to have those issues met here or anywhere they go … so don’t think about them … they are not the droids you are looking for.
Okay i expect that hyper-valuing trust is not the best way to live our lives.

None the less, why would you click on the second link and not click on the first? … using only the facts of the example as given.    What if that same choice was presented to you in a email from Nigeria from a person you did not personally know?  What do *you* call the difference?  
nathan@fbi 2016-01-09 20:46:58 [item 15184#41416]
If you are asking me personally, I am often presented with choices like that, in emails, on websites, especially shady ones. I almost never click on either, the words do not entice me … and when I do, I am following my excitement. I click on the one that looks brighter, more exciting to my inner being … then it doesn’t matter what it says or what is on the other end. No matter what it is, it’s perfect and relevant for me.
yes all of that we know and is pretty much common knowledge.   But you didn’t answer my specific question which was a comparison of two thing that you could click upon.  Seems to me you are avoiding talking about the specific thing i am focused upon … instead you are using that as a excuse to push you own agenda.      Let’s talk about trust somewhere else … i factored that  word totally out of my focus here.

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