Egyptian Revolution Update
About: who would be a dustman in cairo? revolting pictures of piled-up rubbish give egyptian capital label of garbage city | mail online
Manshiyat naser, or Garbage city, as it is known by locals, is a slum on the outskirts of Cairo, just a short drive away from luxury five star resorts.
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9/12/2012 ... in celebration of 9/11 we get
**WARNING** **GRAPHIC PHOTO**...
Romney campaign links attacks to Obama's failed Middle East policies...
White House gave 'mixed signals'...
Muslims Attack US Embassies...
Mobs with guns and rocket-propelled grenades...
Marines Headed to Libya to Reinforce Security...
FLASHBACK: Hillary Clinton boast on Gaddafi: 'We came, we saw, he died'....
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'About 85 per cent of it is sorted and recycled by the people there, and then sold on.
'Rubbish is taken to this quarter by big lorries. Then it is taken to houses and yards by smaller cars, on horses or donkeys or in hands, where it is sorted.
'They sort it into piles of used paper, metal, plastic and so on - and make quite a bit of money from it.'
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Headline says
Egypt's political crisis deepened on Friday as the US urged the military to give up power immediately and protesters laid siege to the Cabinet office in Cairo.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150311#.TtfbHoR0r8B -
Muslim Brotherhood Takes Elections by Storm

A slightly less sensational description of events might be ...
Egypt election tallies favour Islamists
Party numbers suggest that the Muslim Brotherhood's political wing won perhaps 40 per cent of votes.




Egypt Muslim Brotherhood vows not to recognize Israel... STEPPING BACKWARDS, EH?
With all the land occupied by Muslims in the Middle East & elsewhere why do you suppose they can't get along with Israel having some? (2%?). I think it is a disasterous game of GO:




They include countries where transitions are underway after violent upheavals – even though uncertainties and concerns about future directions persist (Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Yemen);


Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives - for up to six hours after their death.
The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.
It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14
The subject of a husband having sex with his dead wife arose in May 2011 when Moroccan cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari said marriage remains valid even after death.
He also said that women have the right to have sex with her dead husband, alarabiya.net reported.
It seems the topic, which has sparked outrage, has now been picked up on by Egypt's politicians.

Sounds like some Egyptian politicians twisting a clerics statement that "marriage remains valid even after death" into absurdity. That should be in the list of rhetorical fallacies: extending a premise to draw a ridiculous conclusion. So some Egyptian politician gins up the crowd based upon something that is as absurb as it is false.
The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.

No, Mark, there is no evidence that any such laws are actually being proposed.
Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”
“This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”
Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives - for up to six hours after their death.
The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.
It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14
The subject of a husband having sex with his dead wife arose in May 2011 when Moroccan cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari said marriage remains valid even after death.
He also said that women have the right to have sex with her dead husband, alarabiya.net reported.
It seems the topic, which has sparked outrage, has now been picked up on by Egypt's politicians.

Sounds like some Egyptian politicians twisting a clerics statement that "marriage remains valid even after death" into absurdity. That should be in the list of rhetorical fallacies: extending a premise to draw a ridiculous conclusion. So some Egyptian politician gins up the crowd based upon something that is as absurb as it is false.
The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.


Perhaps Abdul Samea's fatwa was intended to make that legal.


articles from Google news that explicitly say they are considering it


Egypt’s Islamist-dominated parliament is set to introduce a law allowing husbands to have sex with their dead wives up to six hours after death. Critics fear that the controversial law highlights a trend of increasingly anti-women legislation since the so-called Arab Spring.
The proposed law has sparked much controversy, specifically within Egypt's National Council for Women, which has been campaigning against the law, saying that it "marginalizes and undermines the status of women and would negatively affect the country's human development."









I didn't say I necessrily believed that the thingy would become law.


I think you should still shove it up your ASS. Your one debunk is pure speculation & editorial -carries no more weight than any of the others.



I think you should still shove it up your ASS. Your one debunk is pure speculation & editorial -carries no more weight than any of the others.


"They are talking about necrophilia when the country is in a shambles," scorned Ali Abdelwahab, a hospital doctor drinking after work in a Cairo bar. As he did so, his mobile telephone rings, a colleague asking for advice on a friend injured in a shooting.
"Shouldn't parliament be worrying about the insecurity, with people getting shot and robbed? A lot of Egyptians are losing faith in the Islamists already, and will probably just vote for Moussa, even if they don't like him that much."
Last week, Mr Moussa and Mr Aboul-Fotouh went head to head in a live televised presidential debate, the first ever in Egypt's history.

"They are talking about necrophilia when the country is in a shambles," scorned Ali Abdelwahab, a hospital doctor drinking after work in a Cairo bar. As he did so, his mobile telephone rings, a colleague asking for advice on a friend injured in a shooting.
"Shouldn't parliament be worrying about the insecurity, with people getting shot and robbed? A lot of Egyptians are losing faith in the Islamists already, and will probably just vote for Moussa, even if they don't like him that much."
Last week, Mr Moussa and Mr Aboul-Fotouh went head to head in a live televised presidential debate, the first ever in Egypt's history.



"They are talking about necrophilia when the country is in a shambles," scorned Ali Abdelwahab, a hospital doctor drinking after work in a Cairo bar. As he did so, his mobile telephone rings, a colleague asking for advice on a friend injured in a shooting.
"Shouldn't parliament be worrying about the insecurity, with people getting shot and robbed? A lot of Egyptians are losing faith in the Islamists already, and will probably just vote for Moussa, even if they don't like him that much."
Last week, Mr Moussa and Mr Aboul-Fotouh went head to head in a live televised presidential debate, the first ever in Egypt's history.






What in the underlying articles is false?




O, great oracle - so what is really happening? What are your sources for such pronouncements? To be honest with you I could go any content-free RTE & type in ad hominem statements about myself, as artful, & get a similar measure of the thrill your discourse here has provided.



Discover the Networks has a less politically correct attitude here: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6386






All that said ... do you now believe that there was no contradiction in what i said that you blued ... or are you still believing that i am conflicted there?
APPARENTLY accordingly IRAN made up in a faked interview or something most of the more troubling parts of the headlines. Nevertheless the clarity of whether the Muslim B'Hood still has ties to terrorism is very much missing & the WH should clarify fully before getting into bed with them & sending American foreign aid to them.

& then ... maybe not http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/brotherhood-leader-won-t-speak-israeli-journalist_647858.html

I find it interesting & has different information from Morsi & his advisor. The interesting changes of VPs is not out of Morsi's mouth. OTOH, it could be a nice change for Egypt. The military's part in the whole govermnent could alter the picture quite radically.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/


US EMBASSIES IN ALGERIA, TUNISIA WARN OF PROTESTS...
Years of warning about embassy security preceded Libya attack...

... just asking.

... just asking.

I liked the way our president expressed that in his statement today: "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence."
Contrast that with Romney's balligerant words: "America will not tolerate attacks against on our citizens and against our embassies. We'll defend also our constitutional rights of speech and assembly and religion …"
I'm glad that Obama still speaks for America ... and dread the day another caber rattling warmonger may take over.





... "your lack of a cohesive condemnation of the people who insulted the US or the part Islamists played in it!"

The distinction between a "terrorist" and a "criminal" is only semantic.
Yep, because it was branded wrong. Note, Obama has done more to directly eliminate the criminals who are perpetrating these acts of so called "terrorism" than George Bush ever did ... with the exception of Bush wiping out the Taliban in Afghanistan.
I don't think the your "DUDE" added anything to the veracity of your comment. Do you really think it did?




There is a giant shuffle of logical references in your words. Perhaps you were distracted by your anger when you composed them. Please don't put those kind of contradictions in my mouth just to play your dastardly RWG. You should be ashamed of yourself.
just





... "your lack of a cohesive condemnation of the people who insulted the US or the part Islamists played in it!"

... "your lack of a cohesive condemnation of the people who insulted the US or the part Islamists played in it!"

The distinction between a "terrorist" and a "criminal" is only semantic.
In February, Obama said, “One of the proudest things of my three years in office is helping to restore a sense of respect for America around the world, a belief that we are not just defined by the size of our military.”
Three years ago in Cairo, Obama stressed his leadership would be dramatically different than former President George W. Bush’s: “I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition.”


... "your lack of a cohesive condemnation of the people who insulted the US or the part Islamists played in it!"

The distinction between a "terrorist" and a "criminal" is only semantic.
Yep, because it was branded wrong. Note, Obama has done more to directly eliminate the criminals who are perpetrating these acts of so called "terrorism" than George Bush ever did ... with the exception of Bush wiping out the Taliban in Afghanistan.
I don't think the your "DUDE" added anything to the veracity of your comment. Do you really think it did?

... "your lack of a cohesive condemnation of the people who insulted the US or the part Islamists played in it!"

The distinction between a "terrorist" and a "criminal" is only semantic.
Yep, because it was branded wrong. Note, Obama has done more to directly eliminate the criminals who are perpetrating these acts of so called "terrorism" than George Bush ever did ... with the exception of Bush wiping out the Taliban in Afghanistan.
I don't think the your "DUDE" added anything to the veracity of your comment. Do you really think it did?

Maybe, maybe not ... i certainly do not have sufficient background in intelligence and secrurity measures to make that kind of determination.



More DRUDGE Headlines & info:
Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'...
State Dept 'had credible information 48 hours before'...
Revealed: Inside story of ambassador's assassination...
Sensitive documents go missing...
Exposed: Names of Libyans who are working with Americans...
Was 'revenge for drone strike'...
'There were 400 attackers'...
OBAMA ADMINSITRATION DENIES...
PAPER: Egypt intelligence warned on Sept. 4 of possible attacks...

A Libyan official said Thursday that the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was a planned, two-part operation that included a raid on a supposedly secret safe house -- an account that comports with what a top U.S. lawmaker told Fox News a day earlier.
On Wednesday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers told Fox News that the strike was a "coordinated, military-style" operation.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/13/consulate-attack-planned-as-2-part-militant-assault-libyan-official-says/#ixzz26NPYX0Mv


Good thing your fingers didn't collaborate with your mind in writing that sentence ... how can a "the" kill anyone. Incidentally it wasn't the rebels who killed the ambassador ... the reports say it was Al Quada.

Sufyan Ben Qumu is thought to have been involved and even may have led the attack, Fox News' intelligence sources said. Qumu, a Libyan, was released from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2007 and transferred into Libyan custody on the condition he be kept in jail. His Guantanamo files also show he has ties to the financiers behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
Olson, repeating Wednesday that the FBI is handling the Benghazi investigation, also acknowledged the attack could lead back to Al Qaeda and its affiliates.
"We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda's affiliates, in particular Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb," he said at the Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing.
Still, Olsen said "the facts that we have now indicate that this was an opportunistic attack on our embassy, the attack began and evolved and escalated over several hours," Olson said.

There are still some nagging questions as to WTF is going on over there:
Tonight, Bret Baier of Fox News reported that intelligence sources believe that the mastermind of the al Qaeda attack on our Libyan consulate is one Sufyan Ben Qumu. Qumu was a tank driver in the Libyan army; he was a drug addict and spent time in prison. From there, he fled to Egypt, then went to Afghanistan and joined up with Osama Bin Laden. He later joined the Taliban, and was captured in Pakistan, then turned over to the United States. Qumu was released from Guantanamo Bay in 2007 to the Qaddafi-led Libyan government, on the condition that Libya and the US could reach a “satisfactory agreement … that allows access to detainee and/or access to exploited intelligence.” In 2008, as the Qaddafi government made nice with the Libyan rebels, Qumu was released.
That’s where the story gets even more interesting ...

Hmmm.... getting closer to using the T-word.


& more shit.
BROTHERHOOD BATTLE...
Clashes reignite between protesters, security forces in Egypt...
Judges Vow to Oppose Mursi Power Grab...
Egypt's stock market plummets...
Turmoil...
UPDATE: EGYPT ISLAMISTS HURRIEDLY APPROVE NEW CONSTITUTION...
Liberals, leftists, Christians, moderate Muslims withdrew before vote...
Retains Islamic law as main source of legislation...
No equal rights for women; owning slaves not banned...
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The above are Drudge Report headlines for this morning. Is this really what the so-called Arab Spring was all about? Is this where Syria is headed?


Egypt's ruling party is paying
gangs of thugs to sexually assault women protesting in Cairo's Tahrir
Square against President Mohamed Morsi, activists said.
They also said the Muslim Brotherhood is paying gangs to beat up men who are taking part in the latest round of protests, which followed a decree by President Morsi to give himself sweeping new powers.
It comes as the Muslim Brotherhood co-ordinated a demonstration today in support of President Mohamed Morsi, who is rushing through a constitution to try to defuse opposition fury over his newly expanded powers.




Egypt marks revolution with mass protests against Mursi...
Sign in Tahrir Square: ‘Obama you jerk, Muslim Brotherhoods are killing the Egyptians'...
While Obama allows 15 F-16s & Abram Tanksshipped to Morsi's Egypt.
Apparently the government in the US takes armament away from the people while it doesn't mind arming unfriendly regimes abroad.
Way to go, fuckers!
Maybe they won't go back to that either.
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Not working so well for the Muslim Brotherhood:
MUSLIM BROS LOSING CONTROL...
Egyptians flout curfew...
Military chief warns of collapse...
Chaos Mounts... ..... (& yet Obama admin still going to let through F-18s & Tank purchase?)
BLOODBATH IN CAIRO; 51 DEAD...
Massacre at Muslim Brotherhood sit-in...
Islamists call for 'intifada'...
Sexual assaults rampant...
**WARNING GRAPHIC** Gang throws rivals from top of building...
Lynch mob waving Al Qaeda banners...
Law requires Obama cut off Egyptian aid...
Cairo seeks Gulf help as unrest continues...
Gunmen attack Sinai checkpoints close to Israel border...
Hundreds of Morsi supporters rally in Chicago...
& then ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/08/15/obama-golfs-kerry-lectures-egyptians-die-in-droves/

Put it this way: President Obama’s Egypt policy is about as effective as his Syria policy. And for the first time Wednesday, with the number of dead and injured mounting, one could almost envision Egypt’s descent into out-and-out civil war.
Obama was briefed, said nothing and went back to golf. Secretary of State John Kerry took a break from his fruitless obsession with the nonexistent “peace process” to condemn the violence, but took no questions and had no policy announcement. This, in a nutshell, is the White House’s approach to the Middle East — the absence of any policy and a lot of empty words.
Egypt’s ‘revolution’ is over as people accept imposition of military rule


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/open-jihad-declared-in-egypt-following-state-dept-meeting-with-muslim-brotherhood-aligned-leaders/
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The Obama shepherd Kerry apparent results lead back to Winter.
“It is incumbent upon everyone to be aware that we are in the process of a new phase, where we summon what is latent in our strength, where we recall the meanings of jihad and prepare ourselves, our wives, our sons, our daughters, and whoever marched on our path to a long, uncompromising jihad, and during this stage we ask for martyrdom,” it states.
Preparation for jihad is a key theme of the Brotherhood’s latest call for jihad.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/30/white-house-acknowledges-but-also-denies-that-taliban-are-terrorist-group/
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Ambiguity is the mememe of the day - words losing their meaning. Obama encapsulates ambiguity from his genetics, through his upbringing in Indonesia to his policies as POTUS against the Congress.



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