Robin Hood, Bozo Approved

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Mark de LA says
This reminds me of the grammar school ditty:
Robin Hood, Robin Hood - crawling in the grass
Robin Hood, Robin Hood - with an arrow up his ass
Said it felt good - it was made out of wood,
Robin Hood, Robin Hood.
~~~
It's strange that men should make a hero out of a thug & a band of thieves.
~~~
.. a limerick
Said Marian to Robin Hood,
Your super-tight tights look so good!
They clearly display
Your manhood's array
And your arrow's quivering wood!
.
Submitted by: Johnny D

Seth says

In case you didn't notice this particular image was Bozo Approved .  I noticed the image on a album cover in an antique show and snapped it for future use. 


Now i need to find a image for a reverse robbin hood ... a hero who robbs the poor and gives to the rich ... as if they needed it ... woopse, oh wait a moment, maybe its just this one ...

Mark de LA says
seth 2011-11-14 19:37:18 15610
M 2011-11-14 12:17:50 15610
Thou shalt not steal  ... not OK for anyone.

No shit, Shurlock
Well then there is Obama & Congress who also are acolytes of Robing Hood - steal from the rich & give to their buddies .... not exactly a no duh.  
The main struggle is simple.  Those who have sufficiency & abundance of resources, & specifically money, can either spend it themselves or the government can spend it for them.  Now whom do you trust more?  Can you really find out where all that stimulus, job creating money went? We're talking of budgets in the trillion$. I wouldn't give the government one more cent until they can visibly & openly (transparently) account for all of it.  Major reform is necessary, but the people with more than their fair share of walking around money are governments - not individuals.


Seth says
M 2011-11-14 12:17:50 15610
Thou shalt not steal  ... not OK for anyone.

No shit, Shurlock

Seth says
source: M above
Those who have sufficiency & abundance of resources, & specifically money, can either spend it themselves or the government can spend it for them.
Yeah that's your spin on Robin Hood here, i know.  From that side it looks like the poor have voted to take money from the rich.

My spin on Anti Robin Hood is that the rich rig the system through their control of  politicians to contrive to give themselves advantages ... they steal advantages.

It is possible to look at both sides of that coin ... looking at both sides at the same time might even bring forth some exciting ideas.  not seeing the other side is just boring to me.

Seth says
source: M trying to manipulate the conversation
You ignored the point as usual not seeing the other side: money is spent by the individual or the state ... who has a better use for it? - I've already advocated the separation of money & politics.
Nope, didn't miss that at all ... but that is another topic.

Note what i am trying to do in this item is to examine the Robin Hood spin and imageing.  

Seth says
M 2011-11-15 11:57:22 15610
seth 2011-11-15 09:37:09 15610
source: M trying to manipulate the conversation
You ignored the point as usual not seeing the other side: money is spent by the individual or the state ... who has a better use for it? - I've already advocated the separation of money & politics.
Nope, didn't miss that at all ... but that is another topic.

Note what i am trying to do in this item is to examine the Robin Hood spin and imageing.  
Well, taking money or property from someone who has it and spending it or using it for something other that what the owner chooses is THEFT & STEALING - no matter how warm & fuzzy the purpose is the robber is! (It's for the children .....    etc.) .  The same goes for stealing from those who have not yet been born!!


Well in that sense taxes have always been theft.  So, no, that doesn't work as a point of view as far as i can see.

Thing is there *are* projects that can only be done collectively, in that either they are too big and/or the incentives for a private party doing them at the level necessary for success are just not possible.  And i'm not just talking about national defense, but about things like Hoover Dam, going to the moon, and repairing our infra structure, roads, rails, power grid etc.  Imagine, if you will, an America where those things did not happen. 

Incidentally, regarding stealing from those who have not been born, i certainly agree that we should not finance projects where in the net over a reasonable period of time they have not been paid for from tax revenues.  Consequently I tend to be in favor of a balanced budget amendment.  However the devil is in the details.  Bush and his Congress put the Iraq war on the credit card.  That brings up a problem:  when it is necessary to spend money for our national defense in an emergency where funds for it have not already been allocated, should we not have a provision to finance it with borrowed funds? 

Mark de LA says
Taxes are only THEFT if they are levied without representation.  IMHO, taxes are being levied under false premises by Congress & the Obama administration & hence without representation.
Prime example is Obamacare - http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-s-passage-millions-have-lost-employer-sponsored-health-insurance_607994.html  .  How many wanted this result?  Thing is we have opacity where transparency should reign. WTF is happening in the Debt negotiations ? Will the result represent you?  Will it represent your children & grand children? 


Mark de LA says
Robing Hood is simply class warfare. Fine for Alinsky & liberals yet not so good for the country as a whole. The current regime has to run against congress & "benefit the rich on the backs of the poor" is their mantra.  The current regime can't run on their record on the economy.

Seth says

Yep Robin Hood is class warfare ... and so is anti Robin Hood.  The poor voting for hand-outs paid for by taxes  AND the rich controlling politicians to gain advantages over the poor.  Both are equally as much theft if you want to code it that way.  The only thing that is a tilt for me is that you scream class warfare on the former case but never on the latter.



Mark de LA says
seth 2011-11-15 15:25:17 15610

Yep Robin Hood is class warfare ... and so is anti Robin Hood.  The poor voting for hand-outs paid for by taxes  AND the rich controlling politicians to gain advantages over the poor.  Both are equally as much theft if you want to code it that way.  The only thing that is a tilt for me is that you scream class warfare on the former case but never on the latter.


You have it wrong! Anti-Robing Hood is just one of the 10 commandments. In the beginning there was Moses.  Later on in the beginning of America there were people who were fleeing from a king who imposed taxes on his subjects as he deemed fit.  Remind you of anyone?


Seth says
M 2011-11-16 07:21:08 15610
seth 2011-11-16 05:25:42 15610
M 2011-11-15 14:24:57 15610
Taxes are only THEFT if they are levied without representation.  IMHO, taxes are being levied under false premises by Congress & the Obama administration & hence without representation.

Well you are represented in Congress.  Just because you don't agree with the premises on which your representitives voted to tax you, does not mean you are "without representation".  That is the way representative government works ... a dissenting minority must accept the will of the majority. 
I am not represented in government when government LIES to me about what they are doing with our money!!! I am not represented in government if those who campaign for my vote lie to me about how they will represent me once they get into office - a self-confessed communist czar in charge of Green Jobs - give me a break (think Solyndra).  I am not represented in government by an unelected layer of czars not accountable/confirmed to/by the US Congress.   I am not represented by a president who publicly chooses to bypass Congress - maybe he didn't get the majority/minority thingy either.  We are at a crossroads now where the  usual way things are done in government no longer work & must change. Government got us into the real estate bubble.  Government got us into wars. Government got us into a bad economy with regulations & redistributionism.  Let him that voted for any of that stand up & be counted .  We the People need to kick them OUT!

Well there are literally hundreds of millions of people in this country who believe that they have representation in their federal, state and local governments because they are represented by politicians in their respective legislatures.   Even if you did not vote for the politician who your district sent to the legislature, you are still represented by that politician.  That is the way our government works. 

To me your attitude seems like a rude spectator who when not liking the umpire's ruling against your team throws tomatoes on the field ... your words have just about as much practical effect on the political conversation going on in this country as that.  Too bad, because there are things that need changeing .

Seth says
M 2011-11-16 10:58:54 15610
Well the rectal metaphor applies to you folks. The distinction you are missing, don't have, or are just intentionally ignoring is that having a job (being elected) & actually doing the job (& NOT featherbedding, grafting & trying to profit for oneself) are two different things.  In the private sector someone who fails at a job gets fired. Results matter - talk doesn't.  In public & government jobs we have to wait for an election.
I can barely wait.

Well i certainly am not defending the corrupted politicians in Washington.  Nor is this item focused on just arguing your side of the aisle versus mine.  To do so here would only needlessly make our conversations unfocused and full of disturbing wrangling.  You already know my opinion on this, if a politician needs to be replaced, then replace them through the constitutionally established methods of the ballot box.

I'm just trying to improve our language.  Once a politician is elected to office they represent all of their constituents, even those who did not vote for them.  When those representatives vote to tax you, they are not voting to steal your money, they are voting to tax you according to their constitutional mandate to do so.  That and that along is all i am trying to get across to you. 

Of course the gag me with a spoon funny part is that you already know all of that and think it is cute just to obstruct what i say by ziggin into your own bull shit.   You might ask yourself:  while you do that, are you are following the golden rule?

Mark de LA says
While some of it legal to do so (the income tax is not what I am debating) - I do not agree that:
Seth: ... When those representatives vote to tax you, they are not voting to steal your money, they are voting to tax you according to their constitutional mandate to do so.
... there is no constitutional mandate to tax in the constitution - go read it again.  Their job is not to see how much they can tax & how much they can spend.
Federalist No. 45 - ... ‎"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." --James Madison,
... the constitution was written to limit government NOT see how much government could do.  The originators were already fed up with a king who did whatever he wanted with the land & resources of the peasants. Don't become a peasant again.
Childhood's End must come some day & people become responsible for themselves. A debate must happen again about the minimum duties of the government & reduce current ones down from the maximum, debt-laden duties we're accustomed to having in the nanny-state of today.

 


Mark de LA says
... & the New Media can counteract the M$M liberal conspiracy to brainwash & lie about those of us who would like to THROW THE BUMS OUT!


Seth says
M 2011-11-16 10:14:13 15610
seth 2011-11-16 09:40:02 15610
M 2011-11-16 07:21:08 15610
seth 2011-11-16 05:25:42 15610
M 2011-11-15 14:24:57 15610
Taxes are only THEFT if they are levied without representation.  IMHO, taxes are being levied under false premises by Congress & the Obama administration & hence without representation.

Well you are represented in Congress.  Just because you don't agree with the premises on which your representitives voted to tax you, does not mean you are "without representation".  That is the way representative government works ... a dissenting minority must accept the will of the majority. 
I am not represented in government when government LIES to me about what they are doing with our money!!! I am not represented in government if those who campaign for my vote lie to me about how they will represent me once they get into office - a self-confessed communist czar in charge of Green Jobs - give me a break (think Solyndra).  I am not represented in government by an unelected layer of czars not accountable/confirmed to/by the US Congress.   I am not represented by a president who publicly chooses to bypass Congress - maybe he didn't get the majority/minority thingy either.  We are at a crossroads now where the  usual way things are done in government no longer work & must change. Government got us into the real estate bubble.  Government got us into wars. Government got us into a bad economy with regulations & redistributionism.  Let him that voted for any of that stand up & be counted .  We the People need to kick them OUT!

Well there are literally hundreds of millions of people in this country who believe that they have representation in their federal, state and local governments because they are represented by politicians in their respective legislatures.   Even if you did not vote for the politician who your district sent to the legislature, you are still represented by that politician.  That is the way our government works. 

To me your attitude seems like a rude spectator who when not liking the umpire's ruling against your team throws tomatoes on the field ... your words have just about as much practical effect on the political conversation going on in this country as that.  Too bad, because there are things that need changeing .
Apparently there are a lot of people who do not agree with you & agree with me:
Direction of Country

So all of those people in your pool don't agree that they are represented in Congress?  Bear in mind that you are represented in Congress whether your congressman was elected from your party or not.  If you don't believe that, you are simply confusing the language.

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