People fight Government

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Seth says
Most of the individuals in the picture above are have carried their hatred of government to the extreme. They fight the government in the abstract and their fear of it becomes more mental pathology than practical action towards change. Some of their original complains are justified ... like government becoming bigger than needed and meddling where it does not belong ... a complain that i share with them. The question is how and when that complaint gets out of balance and not specific enough to be useful ... that is what we are dealing with in this fight clubs room.
Incidentally the RWG is perpendicular to what i am pointing out. If you do not understand that, then i guess you will continue to mis-understand and mis-represent my point here. If you want to rationally question me on that, it might make an interesting dialogue.
Incidentally the RWG is perpendicular to what i am pointing out. If you do not understand that, then i guess you will continue to mis-understand and mis-represent my point here. If you want to rationally question me on that, it might make an interesting dialogue.
Seth says
Another way, perchance to grock this as valid, is to ask the question of any group: "When has it outlived it usefulness and when does it spends more energy on sustaining itself rather than practically working on the problem for which it was originally created?"
Mark de LA says
I think I need to make a counter collage with the following:
Keith Oberman, Bill Ayers, Osama Bin Laden, Rev. Wright, SIster Solja, Seth Russell & Chris Matthews & a picture of Barack Obama & Jimmy Carter fighting each other to see which is going down in history as the worst US President of all time:


Keith Oberman, Bill Ayers, Osama Bin Laden, Rev. Wright, SIster Solja, Seth Russell & Chris Matthews & a picture of Barack Obama & Jimmy Carter fighting each other to see which is going down in history as the worst US President of all time:



Seth says
MR 2012-01-01 15:34:53 15734
seth 2012-01-01 14:36:22 15734
MR 2011-12-31 16:11:08 15734
You missed then the patriots: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere etc... who disliked King George & his tyranny. I don't hate the government & I love this country. I just think that some politicians like Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi & the rest of this tired regime should be retired next Novernment permantly before they do any more harm.


How come all of the politicians you cite are Democrats? Why don't you cite some republicans who actually did do harm to our country ... viz George W Bush who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people on a lie and changed the balance of power in the middle east to our a new enemy (Iran), ran up our national debt, and started meddling in the banking industry, handing out billions to banks ... eh? Stand against the errors of politicians regardless of their party ... and then perhaps i will have more respect for your political opinions.
How about Bill Clinton who missed the grand opportunity to get binLaden BEFORE he hit the World Trade Center or Harry Ass Reid the asshole of the senate or .... . In case you missed it I was mentioning PATRIOTS who disliked their government. It was in the latte part that I was mentioning those in government I disliked.


Yeah i got that. I just find it strange that you always complain about Democrats, and never Republicans. I don't remember a single instance where you crossed the line. You added more democrats above to you list ... had you added a republican, you point that patriots can dislike government would have been more convincing ... instead you just reinforced my point ... your fight with government is all lumped in with your political identity, and not with a pure principal.
For me, the only politician who is running for president who is consistent with his principals rather than his party is Ron Paul. On the other end of the spectrum is Mitt Romney, who for me is just Mr Republican. Of course it must be said that Obama is certainly Mr Democrat. I say if you vote for either you are voting more to sustain the power of the Democrat/Republican fight clubs than you are participating in a democratic choice.
For me, the only politician who is running for president who is consistent with his principals rather than his party is Ron Paul. On the other end of the spectrum is Mitt Romney, who for me is just Mr Republican. Of course it must be said that Obama is certainly Mr Democrat. I say if you vote for either you are voting more to sustain the power of the Democrat/Republican fight clubs than you are participating in a democratic choice.
Mark de LA says
M 2012-01-12 10:08:05 15734
Seth says
we could generalize it to something like [title people fight greedy
organizations] ... we can't have a club for every different kind of
established organization ... too fragmenting.

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