Perverted Butterfly Effect

About: ron paul:

I ask simply what scenario do you folks who like Ron Paul's foreign policy vis-a-vis Iran & nuclear capabilities think will play out if RP wins the presidency &/or Obama gets a 2nd term & totally backs off any pressure on Iran to comply with the Nuclear Regulatory Agency of the UN & submit to all inspections necessary to prove peaceful nuclear development for power production? 
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We shall see if google Ron Paul USA caused 9-11 yields something.  Anyway you folks can google it yourself.
The Butterfly Effect of the USA on the Middle East - 2nd effect to follow.

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  1. iran
  2. butterfly effect
  3. nuclear
  4. drums of war
  5. middle east
  6. erronious associations

Comments


Seth says
M 2012-01-09 10:29:26 15751
seth 2012-01-09 10:27:25 15751
You fallacious association of 9-11 with a non belligerent stance twards Iran is  total  bullshit, and deeply offensive.  It does you and your political following no credit at all.  Please stop it.

Your ignorance doesn't help either.  Still no scenario to expect as in the question I asked.  If all you are in this matter is an angry droid:
yourself
Ask me a valid question that does not have a "when are you going to stop beating your grandmother" kind of assumption embedded in it, and i will give your an adult response.  Incidentally i already have, read mine above of 2012-01-09 10:29:05.

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-01-09 10:29:05 15751
seth 2012-01-09 10:23:36 15751
When somebody pushes you, if your response is to push them back even harder, you are then headed directly for a fight.  That is a well known formula.  Strange thing is it is not a necessary response ... a more subtle and nuances approach will frequently lead to disengagement: witness the decades old cold war with the Russians ... we never did go to war with them ... and many administrations, both democrats and republicans, kept  their cool and eventually the reasons for war went away. 
Incidentally when you already are the biggest kid on the block, a mature and measured response is even easier.
Russia didn't go around declaring it was going to wipe USA off the face of the map & was not filled yet with a bunch of people who believe they can be martyred & go to heaven by suicide bombing (a la 9/11).


Seth says
M 2012-01-09 12:02:51 15751
seth 2012-01-09 11:50:40 15751
M 2012-01-09 11:45:51 15751
Jihadism vs Jingoism who will win?
Neither will "win" ... perhaps i should put them in my fight clubs room.
That's probably because there is jingoism in Islamic Jihadism. But also there is patriotism in Jingoism. Notwithstanding all of that I might suggest the word there to be used is polarity instead.  If one were to eliminate from the polarity spectrum of Islam the half that is less perfect in agreement with Mohammed there would still be a polarity left.  One could keep going in that vein in vane.  The same could be done with jingoists & patriots. In the end I guess then I would be the only one left.

... in the end i guess you would be the only one left

Mark de LA says
Wow two assholes in one picture!


Chavez welcomes ally Ahmadinejad...   Too bad there as a third asshole in the Whitehouse who won't let us drill for oil here in the US.

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-01-09 19:20:49 15751
M 2012-01-09 17:47:34 15751
The mujaheddin fought the invasion of Russians. We helped fight Russians. Then we withdrew out support. That pissed off Osama who also was a Wahhabi & added the withdrawal of support to the rest of his hate for non wahhabists (westerners etc) who were friends of Saudi Arabia.  Eventually his terrorist network hit the sleeping giant of the US lulled to sleep with Bill Clinton's peccadilloes & a tech bubble. Too bad - the shit hit the fan or in this case the World Trade Center (already a previous target).

That is a pretty good summary.  I hasten to add that Islam sees the West as a corrupting and interfering influence ... so Muslims are predisposed to consider us as their enemy.  Our only responsibility for the attack is being ourselves and in living in our particular culture which is definitely not Islamic.  I am pretty sure that Ron Paul would agree.
Which is also balanced by the West seeing the Muslims as still living in the dark ages where theocracy controls their behavior & minds.  I'm not sure surrendering to that kind supression is a good idea. It is certainly not the aim of humanity going into the future, but the aim of the ayatollahs & mullahs. The prime directive might be good in part, but I don't want to import the their theocratic principles into the West either.

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