The Fastblogit River went Black on 1/18/2012

About: end piracy, not liberty

It is harder to get this right than you might imagine ... anyway this is what i have come up with.

Tags

  1. sopa
  2. pipa
  3. protest
  4. piracy
  5. cispa
  6. OpMegaUpload

Comments


Mark de LA says
& some helpful results: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/


Mark de LA says
This video makes the point clearly w/ humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX9q-yVSVvc

Mark de LA says
Game not over yet:
http://news.yahoo.com/reid-postpones-vote-anti-piracy-bill-144213479.html

.... the following re-headlined by DRUDGE REPORT:
CYBER WAR: Feds SHUT DOWN file-sharing website; No trial, no due process...

'This is just the beginning'...

'Anonymous' Goes on Revenge Spree ...

DoJ, RIAA, MPAA, and UNIVERSAL MUSIC All Offline...

GOOGLE Already Using SOPA-Like Censorship...

Republicans stand together to oppose 'piracy' law...

Seth says
M 2012-01-20 12:01:50 15771
seth 2012-01-20 11:55:18 15771
Well, whatever ... the protest worked ... the bills have been stopped, perhaps to emerge later as better legislation.  For my part by participating i did experience a grass roots wielding power against the Washington established rut. 
I applaud whatever ego strokes you got from the experience.  What I have said is continue to be vigilant as bills can get tucked in amongst other ones when nobody is watching.

Good point!  Social media, Facebook, twitter, G+ and the web in general do make it much easier to be "vigilant" ...a fact that has some bearing on this.

Seth says
C 2012-01-20 16:16:26 15771
seth 2012-01-20 15:05:38 15771
If the SOPA/PIPA protests were the Web's moment of inspiring, non-violent, hand-holding civil disobedience, #OpMegaUpload feels like the unsettling wave of car-burning hooligans that sweep in and incite the riot portion of the play. The result is always riot gear, tear gas, arrests, injury, and a sea of knee-jerk policies, laws, and reactions that address the destructive actions of a few, and not the good intentions of the many.

There was a wave of car burnings before SOPA got underway in Southern California - were they connected to SOPA/PIPA protests?


i doubt it

Mark de LA says
http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-global-internet-treaty-worse-than-sopa/ ... I told you folks to watch out!


Seth says
MR 2012-02-02 10:20:18 15771
BUT, THE RIVER IS NOT BLACK
it was then.

Mark de LA says
Source: ...

The principles of openness and universal access that underpinned the creation of the internet three decades ago are under greater threat than ever, according to Google co-founder Sergey Brin.

In an interview with the Guardian, Brin warned there were "very powerful forces that have lined up against the open internet on all sides and around the world". "I am more worried than I have been in the past," he said. "It's scary."

The threat to the freedom of the internet comes, he claims, from a combination of governments increasingly trying to control access and communication by their citizens, the entertainment industry's attempts to crack down on piracy, and the rise of "restrictive" walled gardens such as Facebook and Apple, which tightly control what software can be released on their platforms.

... Quite an interesting article - fairly neutral.  I never thought that Facebook was a walled garden before, nor iPad?  Is this just sour grapes at the success of Facebook & iPad apps?



Seth says
source: M above
I never thought that Facebook was a walled garden before, nor iPad?  Is this just sour grapes at the success of Facebook & iPad apps?
You ran into Facebook's walled garden the other day when you couldn't access a URL i gave you to a Facebook dialogue because you had not subscribed to the original poster.  You would run into the iPad wall if you tried to program an app for an iPad and tried to distribute it.  This is part of the problem that i brought up with 15773.  You may not care that there are these walls against your awareness, or you may have ways around them, or you may think they protect you  ... but it is pretty hard to write true sentences denying  they exist.

"Privacy is a wall against synergy" -- Bozo Faust 2012


Mark de LA says
did you delete something I posted here?

Seth says
M 2012-04-16 11:31:56 15771
did you delete something I posted here?
no

Seth says
Tim Berners-Lee tells UK that its latest snooping bill is “destruction of human rights”

Seth says
M 2012-04-16 12:38:09 15771
Well just for the record the text of the 4th amendment:
Wikipedia et al.: ... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
... that's the right & unreasonable searches & seizures is a tort against that right (IMHO!) ... the rest are stipulations of exception.


Yep ... as i said above ... the 4th ammendment is about citizens having a right to keep their property private from government's prying eyes.   But the right to privacy in general is more of a civil matter ... it is between people ... see Wikipedia.  If you can look through my walls, then i can sue you for invading my privacy ... the 4th Amendment has nothing to do with that.

Seth says
M 2012-04-16 11:55:22 15771

Well some thoughts I placed somewhere then: 

  • A true sentence without context may & often is a lie! 
  • OTOH, fastblogit prevents non members of groups from seeing into what members post.
  • Apple made better products because of their closed architecture.
  • Windows & the IBMPC devolved because of openness. Viruses like open architecture.
  • 4th amendment guarantees privacy.
  • 1st amendment guarantees right to assemble peacably.

  • Yes, definitely - a sentence is only true or false within some definite context.
  • Yes, a group at fastblogit can have secrets.  I am not against secrets and privacy in a general sense.  I am just saying that in many (if not most) cases where it is used, it puts up a wall which impedes synergy and awareness.  But there are cases where more synergy happens just because an activity is walled away from extraneous influences.  So it is a good-bad thing ... i just think that people's knee jerk response is to opt for more privacy, rather than less privacy ... when they do that, they should realize what they are giving up.
  • Apple makes good products ... but you do not know that is because their architecture is closed.
  • see above
  • You have stated an over generalized view of the 4th amendment which basically only says that the government must get a warrant to search your property.   Most questions of privacy are not even about the government.  There is no right to privacy in general guaranteed by the 4th.  If you want privacy, you must build your own wall.

Mark de LA says
... & then there is CISPA http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/04/cispa-facts.html
With this one you can see who's paying for it. 
source: ...
This one's not about piracy. Known as CISPA (the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act) the bill would, among other things, allow private companies -- internet service providers and others -- to turn over information about users to law enforcement and security agencies without a court order. It has bipartisan support (there are 82 Republican co-sponsors and 25 Democratic ones, unusual these days) and a lot of backing from big tech companies. But it has infuriated advocates who claim it lacks protections for individual privacy.

A vote in the House is expected next week, which has privacy advocates scrambling -- this week a coalition launched a Twitter campaign similar to the one that brought the SOPA bill to the public's attention. This campaign has led quite a few people to OpenSecrets.org looking for information on the bill, who backs it in Congress and who supports those lawmakers. For instance, we dug in the data to find out who has been contributing to the bill's original sponsor, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich).
...


Mark de LA says
Who lobbies for all these bills? - http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/04/cispa-sopa-pipa-and-biglobbying.html


Mark de LA says
On CISPA the devil is in the details ... from the Hill article:
source: ... Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) added that the bill is an "unprecedented, sweeping piece of legislation that would waive every single privacy law ever enacted in the name of cybersecurity."
... While the purpose is noble how it is done & how far the data is distributed & to whom is the question. Remember folks, we do have a 4th Amendment to our Constitution:
Heritage on 4th amendment: ... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated....
... read some essays on CISPA & see how it looks afterwards.




Mark de LA says
MR 2012-04-27 07:27:37 15771
source: ...

The House on Thursday approved controversial cybersecurity legislation that the Obama administration has threatened to veto.

Members approved the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection (CISPA) act, H.R. 3523, in a 248-168 vote that split both parties somewhat. The bill was supported by 42 Democrats, while 28 Republicans opposed it.

The House approved the bill after making a number of changes aimed at limiting the way the government could use the information that companies provide.

CISPA would make it easier for companies to share information with the government about the threats facing their networks. Supporters ��" Republicans and Democrats alike ��" said the proposal is a reasonable compromise between the need for privacy and security.

For security we usually sacrifice something - usually it is some kind of freedom. This time it is some kind of privacy. Who knows? We'll see how it shakes out & if it is passed in the Senate &/if signed by the President is it signed in secret.


Mark de LA says
Here's the nubbin of it all- as with the 2000+ paged Obamacare legislation the ultimate effect on our lives is how it is implemented in humans, bureaucrats & lawyers after the effect. We must learn to elect better people all the way down the line & all the way up. The law really isn't just what is written down. It would be a waste of time for me to analyze the actual text of the bill HR 3523 since it will be further amended before it gets into use if at all (assuming I could have any affect anyway).
SOPA-?>PIPA-?>CISPA-?> are not all the same but operating in the same domains of CyberSpace.  Who wants to read all the details & see what got added from one to the other?


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