Major Problem - Shit #3

• A government which loses touch no longer represents but dictates & rules. A great example is the USA president, often touted as the most powerful man in the world begins to believe it & begins to act like a king instead of a public servant.  Large governments turn into bureaucracies who treat the public customers like cattle or sheep instead of their employers.
  
• A large corporation, especially a multi-national one, looses touch with her employees who actually make it run & the countries of origin that provided her growth environment & takes on the attitude of a government or monopoly. She soon disrespects her employees to the point of turning them into corporate slaves of a large machine which serves only capital. Often very large entities loose touch with their customers as well (ever thread your way through a multi-tiered telephone answering service?
• The United Nations, rather than preventing wars & truly mediating differences between nations has become a huge privileged debating society while it has members continue graft & corruption under the guise of diplomacy & special programs.  It would be interesting to find a measure of what good they have done. The World is still full of dictators, corrupt heads of government & money distributed to the ruling class rather than the poor. Such things as Iran being on the Human Rights Committee is a joke. Politically correct sovereignty reigns while humanity still suffers. Whom do they serve?
• AFLCIO, SEIU, NEA for example have become political parties who deliver the membership dues to election campaigns & lobby to get advantages for their membership outside the normal marketplace. Where they loose touch is forcing member dues to go in a collective way which may not represent their members. They have lost touch as a guild to educate & train more members.  They are a major influence in the turning of human labor into a commodity. 
• Political parties pander to constituents rather than coalesce, communicate & publicize & come up with great ideas. They act like machines of the ruling class to perpetuate their job security. Often those machines polarize with distortion & lies. They devise such programs that are well outside constitutional government purview & serve themselves more often than they serve the real public.  Many times they are telling the public what it wants rather than asking them. Any time I hear a candidate or politician say the phrase "The American People want ...... " I know I am about to hear outrageous spin. They rarely, if ever, publicize before hand prior to an election what their core values & operating principles & methods will be if they get elected.
• The Main Stream Media (or M$M) exists on advertising dollars, eyeballs & attention.  Luckily the new media has provided great channels as an alternative.  However, the old media has carved out their areas in the new media - witness newspapers published online & the blurring of TV alternatives with the old. Where they loose touch is assuming that the eyeballs they get & hence advertising dollars represent what the public really wants.  News has become entertainment. Sometimes, because the power of visual media as a meme, they seem to believe their own material. The main channels are not unbiased, but pretend to be.
• ... TBD (maybe Universities & Public Schools, Popes, Ayatollahs, Buddhas & Big Religion)    

Comments

C says

source: ... What explains the appeal of development ideology despite its dismal track record? Ideologies usually arise in response to tragic situations in which people are hungry for clear and comprehensive solutions. The inequality of the Industrial Revolution bred Marxism, and the backwardness of Russia its Leninist offshoot. Germany's defeat and demoralization in World War I birthed Nazism. Economic hardship accompanied by threats to identity led to both Christian and Islamic fundamentalism. Similarly, development ideology appeals to those who want a definitive, complete answer to the tragedy of world poverty and inequality. It answers the question, "What is to be done?" to borrow the title of Lenin's 1902 tract. It stresses collective social outcomes that must be remedied by collective, top-down action by the intelligentsia, the revolutionary vanguard, the development expert. As Sachs explains, "I have … gradually come to understand through my scientific research and on the ground advisory work the awesome power in our generation’s hands to end the massive suffering of the extreme poor … although introductory economics textbooks preach individualism and decentralized markets, our safety and prosperity depend at least as much on collective decisions."

... Add the IMF & development ideaology to the list in the main event.

Like I've said before fix the economy independent of governments to fuck with & peace will break out all over the world.  Keep governments involved & the shit hits the fan over & over again.

C says

seth 2012-01-20 15:32:13 15774

Yes as organizations grow and age and become too large the relationship they had to their original intention decays.  Sometimes they end up working 180 degrees against what started them.  Would that they would just pop like a bubble ... but unfortunately they do not.

Well the Fannie May & Freddie Mac conglomerate did pop, but unfortunately some thought it too big to fail & propped it back up w/ bonuses. What happens when the USA bubble of government pops? I prefer seamless evolutionary correstions in a dynamic balance designed into systems rather than pops.

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Mark de LA says

But you sound like you are a communist! & ... you seem to ignore the distinction private property! Someone (Ron Paul) in the Wikipedia bio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul: ... He came to believe that what the Austrian School economists wrote was becoming true on August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon "closed the gold window" by implementing the U.S. dollar's complete departure from the gold standard.[18]

That same day, the young physician decided to enter politics, saying later, "After that day, all money would be political money rather than money of real value. I was astounded."[19]

... That train has already left. What is your solution ? Another Bolshevik revolution? Like the article says these failed solutions of the past continue to fail!

Mark de LA says

BTW, Wealth does not belong to the Government.  The Government is a taker - not a producer.  It produces nothing! If everyone not in government went on strike nothing would happen & the country would grind down to a stop.

Mark de LA says

Why does a person decide to become a politician if not to run other people's lives & decide how other people should do things whether they agree or not?  The notion of serving people is a distinction lost in polemics & egos.

There was quite a revelation in the article from Foreign Policy - I hope you read it.  

Mark de LA says

.. & Now world government of economic elete gather in the name of fixing outdated capitalism?

Davos elites to seek reforms of 'outdated' capitalism...

Mark de LA says

Yo dude! Wealth does not just hang around in some disembodied ether - it is created and owned.  Only the Obamanation puffs it out of thin air & future generations! Your posts are continuously coming from the perspective that you can have something to do with it other than that which YOU create & own on your own.  Didn't go for the envy thing (see the occupy movement) for that. Go for reading what I said!

Mark de LA says

Dude!  The whole wealth strawman has nothing to do with the many bulleted points I labored to put into the body of this item.  Your are OT!!!!! ... PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.   This topic is about large organizations being out of touch with their members.

Mark de LA says

The TRIPS agreement is also part of the AFTA which references it a lot. This is almost as hard to figure out as the whole Geneva Convention

Mark de LA says

See 15788 and the conversation about ACTA.  For some copyright is invalid & should be abolished.  My experience in the Far East was that China, Hong Kong & other places routinely copied USA books & media & sold it. It was up to the customs agents in the country of receipt to prosecute. The lack of transparency speaks for itself as far as losing touch with constituents & open government.

• http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_plurilateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_(2007)
• https://www.eff.org/issues/acta
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
• http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-global-internet-treaty-worse-than-sopa/
• http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2012/01/20120125acta.pdf

These are some references to the trade agreement.

Mark de LA says

State governments are as large as some sovereign country governments. The purpose of the Republic form of government is getting lost in relationship to the federal government by the flow of taxes & the flow of aid & the control of commerce by the feds. One should limit state governments as well as federal ones.

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nota bene: news of the day for California that prompted some of this: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/01/controller-state-to-run-out-of-cash-in-march-without-action.html

Mark de LA says

The United Nations should be unfunded until it can get together on principles & values which are more universal to humanity than sovereignty. Apparently a dictator killing his citizens is not disturbing to all its members:

source: ... The Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, who had been highly critical of Western attempts to force through a resolution but had stopped short of saying he would veto it, discussed the issue with US secretary of state Hillary Clinton in Munich. He was said to have submitted the additional amendment dropping the demand for tanks and artillery to be withdrawn, part of the first Arab League peace plan agreed with Syria in November, only on Friday night.

"Our amendments do not demand any extreme efforts," he said. "If our colleagues display a constructive approach, we will get a collective Security Council resolution that I am certain all countries without exception will sign on to."

He said Russia could not support any resolution that "took sides" in a civil war.

Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the United Nations, said the amendments were "unacceptable".

The draft has already been watered down from the original, which repeated almost verbatim an Arab League timetable for Mr Assad to cede powers to his deputy, oversee the formation of a unity government with the opposition, and hold elections within six months.

... The government of Syria has a solution for losing touch with her people - KILL THEM!

Mark de LA says

China clarifies her position:

China says the resolution put undue emphasis on pressuring the Syrian government and prejudged the result of any dialogue between the parties in Syria.

The veto also appears to be rooted in China's deep-seated opposition to humanitarian interventions, which stems from its elevation of national sovereignty above all and concerns about its vulnerabilities over the restive western regions of Xinjiang and Tibet.

China's rare abstention last year from the U.N. vote over a Libyan no-fly zone was later regretted by Chinese diplomats, who said NATO far overstepped its mandate and pledged not to permit any U.N. measures that could lead to similar action over Syria.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/06/china-defends-its-veto-un-measure-on-syria/#ixzz1lbtXXX46

... The same goes for Russia & her problems in Georgia etc. as well as the fact that she has a common border with Iran which supplies Syria with arms.