LAWLESS PRESIDENT - bypasses Congress signs ACTA

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How can the Senate be forced to ratify a treaty?  It's not a treaty.
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Under the provisions of ACTA, copyright holders will be granted sweeping direct powers to demand ISPs remove material from the Internet on a whim. Whereas ISPs normally are only forced to remove content after a court order, all legal oversight will be abolished, a precedent that will apply globally, rendering the treaty worse in its potential scope for abuse than SOPA or PIPA.

A country known for its enforcement of harsh Internet censorship policies like China could demand under the treaty that an ISP in the United States remove content or terminate a website on its server altogether. As we have seen from the enforcement of similar copyright policies in the US, websites are sometimes targeted for no justifiable reason.

...  this alone should be grounds for impeachement!
What do you folks think of this after your silly SOPA protest, eh?

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Comments


Seth says
Thanks for alerting me to his, i did not know about it.  Too bad for you it was just another excuse to bash Obama ... because of that i almost missed it.

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-01-28 10:53:54 15788
Thanks for alerting me to his, i did not know about it.  Too bad for you it was just another excuse to bash Obama ... because of that i almost missed it.
Yep. an Obamafish will get YOU every time! Whishhhhhhh... there goes your mind!


Seth says
You misunderstand, my friend.  Perhaps you misunderstand intentionally, i don't accuse, i simply do not know.  Here it is again ... read my words carefully ... please!   I almost missed this just because you made it about Obama .... that is because the things you write which just rag on Obama, I have, quite intentionally, learned to ignore.

Mark de LA says
For my part I simply do not like a president who thinks he is a one-man government & is likely to bypass Congress if he can get away with it. There is a good balance of power with the Congress, President & Judiciary .  Let's keep it that way regardless .
  • He appoints a bunch of czars to bypass the confirmation process of department heads
  • He makes recess appointments to avoid vetting of the appointments when the appointments were not urgent (i.e. the labor relations board)
  • Obamacare was done in a totally non-standard Congressional process
  • He has provided no budget for > 1000 days &/or Congress has not approved one - BUT he keeps on spending
  • He signs something he calls "an executive agreement" which he acts like is a treaty & wants the Senate to be forced to ratify it.

An obamafish is my way of saying "here's your sign" a la Bill Engvall.



Mark de LA says
The whole thingy about intellectual & artistic copyright in the electronic (Internet) age needs to be discussed in the open, like with Congress & in the press & all sides represented.  Treaties are the form of law codifying agreements between soverign nations. Treaties have to be ratified by the Senate. Anything else can be broken.

Mark de LA says
Not acknowledging copyright & intellectual property will severely restrict international commerce & the quality of stuff in the worlds of art, music & video. The Internet blurs the borders between countries & sovereign entities.  On the other hand there is free speech, press & by extention most media.  I would also add something reiterating the right of soverign countries to keep their military & state secrets free from espionage to whatever treaties signed.


Seth says
Back about ACTA ...

i asked what i think the pertinent questions  of Aaron Swartz on Facebook here.   He provided the link to the appropriate discussion here ...
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Seth says
MR 2012-01-30 11:46:51 15788
seth 2012-01-30 11:40:34 15788
If it changes no laws & it's implementation changes no laws then why do it in the first place? That would just place it in the Rodney King "Let's all just get along" category.

To answer your question: my take is that it is about cooperation with foreign governments to protect Intellectual property.  That said, it might not be a good idea to cooperate with foreign government when it may end up restraining freedom on the Internet.  

I think there is a fundamental paradox (or contradiction) between staking out "Intellecual Property" and  ensuring "Freedom on the Internet".  These things will always be fighting ... yin and yang.  To formulate actions i think it is necessary to acknowledge that basic contradiction.  Me i tend to side more with the latter force and don't care that much about the former one.  People who think they have more of the former  are obviously going to be fighting on that side.  Do we want our government to be protecting private property in international trade ... well why not ... does international trade take place on the Internet ... yes it certainly does ... why should it be exempt?  ... that is an legitimate question indeed. 

Mark de LA says
Why don't you watch O'reilly or Hannity & find out if you are that curious. I am certain that the 1st amendment is going to prevail anyway.


Seth says
MR 2012-04-02 15:07:17 15788
Why don't you watch O'reilly or Hannity & find out if you are that curious. I am certain that the 1st amendment is going to prevail anyway.

i suspect it will hear about it, if there there actually is some reaction, without my having to seek it out.  What won't come to me so easily, however, is the knowledge of "What the Republicans in Arizona were thinking?". 

Seth says
MR 2012-04-02 12:54:57 15788
seth 2012-04-02 11:44:32 15788
I wonder if the right is going to support or decry this government intrusion into free speech on the Internet.
If you left the "right" out of there I would say that government is assailing free speech & would agree to such a stipulation.  Otherwise you are just a bitch of the left & of no interest!
(lovingly - of course)

Well good for you .   

I'm actually more interested in the reactions of right leaning media pundits ... the O'Rilleys and the Hannities ,and the  Michelle Malkins and the what's their name blond girls ... not to mention the, almost mandatory, ruling of SCOUTS.  But I suppose they will react pretty much the same as you have (if they react at all) ... so that leaves me with ... what were the Republicans in Arizona thinking?

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-04-02 11:44:32 15788
I wonder if the right is going to support or decry this government intrusion into free speech on the Internet.
If you left the "right" out of there I would say that government is assailing free speech & would agree to such a stipulation.  Otherwise you are just a bitch of the left & of no interest!
(lovingly - of course)


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