Drums of War on Syria

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protest_idlib_021712.jpgThis has been going on a long time since the so-called Arab Spring - only in this case no external intervention has happened except Iran continues to ship them arms.  Recently it looks like Al Queda is in Syria as well.

SYRIAN FORCES FIRE ON FUNERAL PROCESSION...

Protesters Fill Streets in Damascus...

REPORT: US sends in drones...
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Mark de LA says
Maybe because aid to the rebels worked out so well in Egypt & Libya:
Source: ... "We don't want to take actions that would contribute to the further militarization of Syria because that could take the country down a dangerous path," White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters. "But we don't rule out additional measures if the international community should wait too long and not take the kind of action that needs to be taken."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/21/obama-administration-opens-door-to-aid-for-syrian-rebels/#ixzz1n4A7PiIs
...If the Rebels win then who takes over?


Mark de LA says
Some call it a civil war some call it an atrocity by Assad. In any event it appears to be another UN failure.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/16/syrian-troops-shell-damascus-suburbs-12-killed/


Mark de LA says
seth 2012-06-16 09:03:31 15825
Well Google maps used to have a button to get a URL for a specific place, but now i can't find it.  There is, however, a share button ... i got this url by sharing it to myself on G+ ... seems to go right there.  Is that what you wanted?
Nice, thanks!

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-02-22 13:51:39 15825
MR 2012-02-22 13:34:29 15825
I'm not sure exactly where to put this one - it applies mostly to Iran, but is also apropos of Syria, Afghanistan & perhaps the 4 African nations the US has troops in.
.... The Equinoctial hexagram for the Sun sign of Pisces.
Rainbowed! Immersed in Peril's Rectitude
"Rash violence drowns in dark disaster's eddy."
P.1723 of the Tai Shu Commentaries
Yes, and you should thank your lucky stars that our commander and chief is called "no drama, Obama" ... i trust him not to be rash.

I was just thinking about this and will make a prediction.  If Obama wins, we will not have a war with Iran in the next for years ... if a republican wins, we will.  Oh, and Iran will not test a nuke either.

Want to make a bet?
How much? Basically you can avoid war by subjugation & ass-kissing. NP.  On the other hand I suspect Iran will have nuclear warheads. Iran is already threatening to use preemptive strikes if it feels threatened (including some forms of sanctions).  She still refuses real inspections. If Iran gets nukes she can close the Suez Canal & the Straights of Hormuz easily & will surely threaten to do so.  BTW, Obama is ALL drama - very little substance.
 

Mark de LA says


WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, TAKE TWO...

Clinton worries about Arab Spring 'backsliding'...

Mark de LA says
Iraq Redux -
source: ...

Several senators are raising concerns that unrest in Syria could allow that nation's chemical and other weapons to be used against U.S. forces and allies in the region.

"The growing breakdown of order and security in Syria could place its significant stockpiles of poison gases and operational chemical weapons at risk," Maine Republican Susan Collins, New York Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand, and New Hampshire Democrat Jeanne Shaheen wrote in a February 17 letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. DOTMIL obtained a copy of the letter.


... There were rumors a long time ago that Saddam Hussein sent some of his chemical stuff to Syria.



Mark de LA says
HERE WE GO AGAIN: Obama moves to aid Syrian 'rebels'...

Sens urge strike...


Mark de LA says
The politicization of intelligence to the media suggests policy by media distortion to me.  Read http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/politicizing-intelligence-syria_633443.html?page=1


Mark de LA says

AlQueda in Syria? The DOD chief thinks so: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-there-al-qaeda-presence-syria_644450.html

Mark de LA says
Apparently the UN is impotent to stop killings by the regime in Syria . Add to that the appearance, if not reality, that there is a proxy war with Russia via Iran & Syria over the whole affair. (my evaluation above)  the M$M below:
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/5f277e60-b561-11e1-ad93-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xmT1yP4q
Obama not doing well with the Russians. google obama russia if you think otherwise.

Mark de LA says
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/15/us-believes-russia-has-ship-with-weapons-troops-en-route-to-syria/?hpt=hp_t1
source: ...

The United States says it is tracking a Russian military cargo ship as it makes its way to Syria carrying weapons, ammunition and a small number of Russian troops.

U.S. intelligence believes the Russians are sending the ship to help fortify its naval base in Syria as the situation in country continues to spiral out of control, Pentagon officials told CNN Friday.

The presence of the ship was first reporting by NBC News.

Classified U.S. imagery shows the ship, called the Nikolay Filchenkov, began loading in the port of Sevastapol on the Black Sea on June 7 and is headed for the Syrian port of Tartus, where the Russians have a naval facility. The port is vital for Russian naval access to the entire Middle East.

... ( I wonder if there is a direct way to link to Google Earth for a region pic/map?) This one is just a screen scrape.



Mark de LA says
Now we know why Obama is afraid of interfering with Syria but was OK with Libya
tass: ...A number of warships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet are prepared to go to Syria, the Russian General Staff told Itar-Tass on Friday.

“The Mediterranean Sea is a zone of the Black Sea Fleet responsibility. Hence, warships may go there in the case it is necessary to protect the Russian logistics base in Tartous, Syria,” it said.

“Several warships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, including large landing ships with marines aboard, are fully prepared to go on the voyage,” he said.
...
I guess he can't just send drones to fuck with Syria, eh?

Mark de LA says
An unholy, but predictable alliance emerges:Syria, Iran, Russia and China plan joint war games, Iranian news agency reports

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-news-agency-reports-joint-syria-iran-russia-and-china-wargames/

The IDF spokesman’s office called the report a “political matter” and declined to comment.

Iran is currently holding talks with six Western powers over the fate of its nuclear program. The talks, said to be held in a tense atmosphere in Moscow, seek to alleviate world concerns that the Islamic Republic is developing nuclear weapons.

Syria meanwhile faces international pressure to end a 15-month crackdown on local rebels trying to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad.

China and Russia have come to the aid of both countries in recent months at the UN Security Council, vetoing military intervention in Syria and expanded sanctions on Iran.

...

Seth says
source: M above
An unholy, but predictable alliance emerges:Syria, Iran, Russia and China plan joint war games, Iranian news agency reports
Aren't you glad we still have a POTUS who is wise enough not to get drawn into another war in this situation?


Mark de LA says
seth 2012-06-19 08:15:25 15825
source: M above
An unholy, but predictable alliance emerges:Syria, Iran, Russia and China plan joint war games, Iranian news agency reports
Aren't you glad we still have a POTUS who is wise enough not to get drawn into another war in this situation?

NOPE! He already intefered in Libya & Egypt to some extent & left behind anti-American regimes. He's cultivating anti-American regimes in Pakistan with drone wars.  Now Russia's Putin no longer respects him nor the US & is taking advantage of our weakened economic condition to start to push us around.  China is an old ally in that regard. Read: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/two-men-barely-looked-each-other_647611.html for more info. Syria & Iran are client states of terrorism, but they buy shit from Russia in a symbiotic relationship.  Putin: Once a Soviet KGB always a Soviet.


flushmeister says
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/heavy-fighting-around-syrian-capital-activists-080343616.html - Syria is at war - with itself?


Mark de LA says
 Iraq redux? - This time RUSSIA is supporting them.
source: ...
  • Syria has undeclared arsenals of sarin nerve agent, mustard gas, cyanide
  • U.S. officials fear Assad may want to use weapons against rebels or civilians
  • Others believe he is trying to safeguard stockpile from his opponents


  • Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173148/Syria-begun-moving-chemical-weapons-stockpile-storage-U-S-warns.html#ixzz20WjIzAFx
    ...


    Mark de LA says
    NOW WHAT?
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/18/us-policymakers-brace-collapse-syria/


    Mark de LA says

    Seth says
    seth 2013-08-26 19:10:15 15825
    seth 2013-08-26 13:06:34 15825
    There is one thought that i cannot get beyond ... and that is Que Bono ... who benefits from the gas being used?   I cannot for the life of me conceive of any benefit to the Assad regime.  Yet the benefit to the rebels cannot be doubted.   I have no doubt that the gas was used, but i have no idea who actually caused it to happen and why.

    my bet is that Hezbollah is behind the gassing.  they are the ones who would profit by a bigger conflagration in Syria.

    Some perhaps credible intercept here ...
    source: Foreign Policy: The Cable

    Last Wednesday, in the hours after a horrific chemical attack east of Damascus, an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with a leader of a chemical weapons unit, demanding answers for a nerve agent strike that killed more than 1,000 people. Those conversations were overheard by U.S. intelligence services, The Cable has learned. And that is the major reason why American officials now say they're certain that the attacks were the work of the Bashar al-Assad regime -- and why the U.S. military is likely to attack that regime in a matter of days.

    But the intercept raises questions about culpability for the chemical massacre, even as it answers others: Was the attack on Aug. 21 the work of a Syrian officer overstepping his bounds? Or was the strike explicitly directed by senior members of the Assad regime? "It's unclear where control lies," one U.S. intelligence official told The Cable. "Is there just some sort of general blessing to use these things? Or are there explicit orders for each attack?" 


    ... which begs the question of where the sympathies of this "Syrian officer" lay.


    Mark de LA says
    A good summary of what has been going on written by Pat Buchanan - called the Palin Doctrine.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-palin-doctrine/


    Seth says

    for the timeline (FoxNews):

    US Warships Head Toward Syria


    Seth says
    DEJAVU ALL OVER AGAIN! (Maybe even the same weapons that excaped Iraq)


    DECLARES WMD



    KERRY: Chemical weapons 'undeniable'...

    Press corps blurs Obama's 'red line' on Syria...

    POLL: 9% support military action...



    BOMBING 'IN DAYS'...

    Israel distributes gas masks...

    Russia: No Proof Syrian Gov't Behind Chemical Weapons Attack...

    Force without UN 'blatant violation of int'l law'...

    ASSAD: American military will 'fail' like in Vietnam...

    Damascus, Tehran issue stark warning to Jerusalem...

    Strikes would trigger 'chaos,' threaten world security...

    Chemical attack evidence 'may have been destroyed'...


    Seth says
    So why is this information not brought before the UN & the UN shamed for allowing such to happen without some kind of raid to get Assad & bring him up to the World Court? At least I would think that shaming the UN with accurate provable intel would be worthwhile . What's the hurry? Revenge is a dish best served cold! We should have enough satellite info & drone surveillance to tell where all the stuff is moving to.


    Seth says
    ... Secretary of State Kerry spells out the case for a strike against Syria.

    Apparently it is all about integrity, doing what you say you will do. 

    This dilema would not have arisen, had Obama not drawn his red line.   But he did draw it, so here we are.

    Seth says
    about the day after the gassing on August 21, i was named in a cartoon posted by a Syrian national which told the story below ...



    Seth says
    apparently my report above about an intercept of senior syrian officers was borne out by the materials declassified today ...



    Seth says
    The Wikipedia on the Syrian Civil War "Arab Spring" revolt against the Baathist regime of Assad is here.


    Seth says
    Rush & Bodansky inquire into Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it.  After all, what was the payoff for Assad? Did he not know that it would make him a pariah to the UN & others? What if the rebels knew this & those of the AlQueda persuasion did it to draw Obama into beating up on Assad for them?
    The UN finally wakes up!
    source: ... "As I have repeatedly said, the Security Council has primary responsibility for international peace and security," Ban said at a news conference. "The use of force is lawful only when in exercise of self-defense in accordance with article 51 of the United Nations Charter and or when the Security Council approves such action.
    ...
    So the unanswered questions - in contrast to the emotional hype - is what is the US strategic interest in Syria?  What good will $300,000,000 barage of cruise missiles as a message do for our strategic interest or to stop Asad? With all the stuff moved around who will be laughing at us besides most of our enemies?
    Not raised anywhere else is the fact that Clinton bemoaned that he was not a war-time president & Bush was.  Has Obama's ego gone so far that he is trying to start a war & torch off the ME for agenda purposes?  Chemical weapons cause death - a bit slower than terrorist bombs & drones & modern war armament. 


    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-04 08:38:20 15825
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.
    Well the US & POTUS may not all be on the same page.  Maybe POTUS can open the candy store to bribe congress to agree with him & go to war. I hope not.  It is not surprising that the Baathist Saddam Hussein, while the UN & US dithered around, let his weapons escape to Syria. Anyone yet disprove that? Where did the weapons used come from? Those now for war have switched sides. Those killed by Saddam in total were more than those killed by whomsoever did it in Syria. If we could get Osama Bin Laden by a quick commando raid AND we have real proof that Assad did it why not do so & bring Assad to trial before the World court.  Now that would set a precedence for a Nobel Prize for Peace instead of an ineffective break a few things wag the dog party.


    Seth says
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.

    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-04 08:38:20 15825
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.

    some additional background to justify the "underestimate" ...
    source: from Damascus

    sorry Seth there was loss in the electricity network here in Damascus

    i think yes Assad and his commanders underestimated not only Obama but also the whole international community

    and that was due to the late response of the UN , EU and US to the Syrian crisis


    Sometimes we ourselves underestimate just how very different things can look from within another country. 

    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-04 08:57:52 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 08:38:20 15825
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.

    some additional background to justify the "underestimate" ...
    source: from Damascus

    sorry Seth there was loss in the electricity network here in Damascus

    i think yes Assad and his commanders underestimated not only Obama but also the whole international community

    and that was due to the late response of the UN , EU and US to the Syrian crisis


    Sometimes we ourselves underestimate just how very different things can look from within another country. 
    Now explain what possible benefit is there for Assad to have gassed his own people when he could look next door at Iraq & what happened to Saddam Hussein who was executed after it was all over for gassing his own people in Hallujah (the Kurds)?  He is doing just fine bombing his own people with normal ordinance.  There was no payoff!


    Seth says
    Now Saddam had some benefit because he & his sons ruled the dictatorship by fear & cruelty.


    Seth says
    ME 2013-09-04 09:14:41 15825
    This Rush predicted would happen
    (via drudge)
    'I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE'
    ... yesterday


    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-04 10:55:57 15825
    ME 2013-09-04 09:13:19 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 08:57:52 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 08:38:20 15825
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.

    some additional background to justify the "underestimate" ...
    source: from Damascus

    sorry Seth there was loss in the electricity network here in Damascus

    i think yes Assad and his commanders underestimated not only Obama but also the whole international community

    and that was due to the late response of the UN , EU and US to the Syrian crisis


    Sometimes we ourselves underestimate just how very different things can look from within another country. 
    Now explain what possible benefit is there for Assad to have gassed his own people when he could look next door at Iraq & what happened to Saddam Hussein who was executed after it was all over for gassing his own people in Hallujah (the Kurds)?  He is doing just fine bombing his own people with normal ordinance.  There was no payoff!


    Well, like i said, he underestimated Obama's response.  In other words he actually believed that Obama would not impose consequences.   Apparently his thinking does not extend to appreciate forces outside his narrow domain.   That is the only thing that can explain this. Saddam did the same thing. 

    The only other explanation is that the commanders, inside the Assad military, who actually authorized the gassing have a different agenda than Aasad.  If they declassify the intercepted phone conversation, that may (or may not) shed some light on that.  But does it really matter at this point?
    If it was some rebel AlQueda infiltrators within Assad's military then the whole retaliation is wrong & the UN needs to help purge them out & bring them to justice in the world court. Intercepts can be faked both on the observing side & on the other side if you know someone is listening in (see Assange & Snowden ).  War & chess are complicated games & the enemy has a vote.


    Seth says
    ME 2013-09-04 12:14:20 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 11:12:20 15825
    source: drudeg headline: i didnt set the red line
    ... Well he didn't set it, but he sure as hell underlined it ... where the USA had ignored the line before.  Me, i still fault him for drawing the line ... sans his mouth we would not be at war's doorstep.  The pressure was tremendous ... your own mouth shouting most loud, in fact.

    But then it's not really about Obama anymore ... and that is what Obama is saying here.  This thing has escalated, as things do, now it bears on whether the old USA can say to Iran, don't enrich Uranium past this point and be doing more that flapping lips.  Obama haters, of course, will use this crisis to damage him ... who knows, they might even go so far as to damage American credibility in the process ... and then snigger about it.  We will see how the story plays out ... some of us with our lives.
    Yep - standard issue - Obama is responsible for nothing!  I think we should get his presidential salary & all the vacation pay back for fraud. You really should listen to his press conference where he DID draw the line. The Obamalagnia infected with their accomplices in the M$M will never see his urine dribbling down their own chins.  Obama has already made a laughing stock of US policy in the Middle East.  He was against worse instances military action against chem weapons atrocities when he was in the senate. Like I said, Syria is going nowhere. What's the hurry except Obama's EGO? Turn it over to that liberal Mecca of the UN & let the Middle Easterners fight Middle Easterners.



    Seth says
    The question is still about who takes over when Assad goes if he does:
    (Drudge headlines this AM:) .... think Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Somalia .....

    BRUTALITY OF SYRIAN REBELS REVEALED....
    EXECUTING MEN ON KNEES...
    'We swear to the Lord of the Throne, we will take revenge'...

    Kerry claim rebels are 'moderate' belied by violence...
    AL QAEDA ATTACKS CHRISTIAN VILLAGE...



    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-04 12:56:31 15825
    ME 2013-09-04 12:05:34 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 10:55:57 15825
    ME 2013-09-04 09:13:19 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 08:57:52 15825
    seth 2013-09-04 08:38:20 15825
    source: mark refers to "Seth's idea that maybe Assad didn't do it"
    ... I did say that was a possibility but also reported subsequent intelligence that the gas did come from Assad's forces.  Apparently the Assad government "underestimated" the US resolve.  But, who knows, our Congress might just validate Assad's assessment.

    some additional background to justify the "underestimate" ...
    source: from Damascus

    sorry Seth there was loss in the electricity network here in Damascus

    i think yes Assad and his commanders underestimated not only Obama but also the whole international community

    and that was due to the late response of the UN , EU and US to the Syrian crisis


    Sometimes we ourselves underestimate just how very different things can look from within another country. 
    Now explain what possible benefit is there for Assad to have gassed his own people when he could look next door at Iraq & what happened to Saddam Hussein who was executed after it was all over for gassing his own people in Hallujah (the Kurds)?  He is doing just fine bombing his own people with normal ordinance.  There was no payoff!


    Well, like i said, he underestimated Obama's response.  In other words he actually believed that Obama would not impose consequences.   Apparently his thinking does not extend to appreciate forces outside his narrow domain.   That is the only thing that can explain this. Saddam did the same thing. 

    The only other explanation is that the commanders, inside the Assad military, who actually authorized the gassing have a different agenda than Aasad.  If they declassify the intercepted phone conversation, that may (or may not) shed some light on that.  But does it really matter at this point?
    If it was some rebel AlQueda infiltrators within Assad's military then the whole retaliation is wrong & the UN needs to help purge them out & bring them to justice in the world court. Intercepts can be faked both on the observing side & on the other side if you know someone is listening in (see Assange & Snowden ).  War & chess are complicated games & the enemy has a vote.


    Well, yes, certainly i agree, whoever commanded the gassing should be brought up on war crimes.  But those names are not public ... and almost impossible to ferret out with any degree of legal proof. 

    In any case, I did not point to "rebel AlQueda infiltrators" here.  Rather i pointed only to "commanders, inside the Assad military who have a differet agenda".   There are other actors, not just AlQueda ... there is Hezbohla, and people backed by Iran who might want to see a giant conflagration.  Hell, even Obama haters could have an agenda here.  In fact the simplest motive is most likely what happened.  They just didn't think Obama would strike, and by us not striking they would win a big propaganda victory.    But, it really does not matter in the least now who instigated it, or even why  ... it was Assad's gas and Assad's missiles and Assad's military commanding the murder. 
    Maybe, maybe not!  We have no evidence except the word of those who claim so because they want to retaliate.  Apparently it is all classified.  Remember Colin Powell before the UN claiming biological weapons trucks & WMD & when we invaded they escaped to somewhere ... Syria?
    Deja Vu!


    Seth says
    Remember the stories about Iraq invasion of Kuwait & the throwing babies out of incubators into the street?  Is this the story which reverses the direction of the war for Syria?
    Source: ... The scene of Syrian rebels standing over seven soldiers of the Syrian regular army while the rebel commander recited a bloodthirsty poem—and pointing rifles and a pistol at the heads of their prostrate, shirtless, and badly beaten prisoners—was shocking enough. Times video editors tactfully blackened the screen as the rebels—who, just like the United States government, oppose the regime of dictator Bashar al-Assad—began to execute the soldiers; the only indication of the slaughter taking place was a noisy fusillade of 10 seconds in length. Then an image flashed of the broken bodies in a mass grave.
    ...

    Seth says
    WashTimes: ...

    Eleven Syrian rebel groups, including a powerful al Qaeda affiliate, have rejected the Western-backed opposition coalition, calling for a new Syria under Islamic law and dealing a severe blow to U.S.-led efforts to support a democratic alternative to embattled President Bashar Assad.

    In a statement read out in an online video late Tuesday night, the rebel alliance called on other militants fighting to topple the Assad regime to unite under a “clear Islamic framework.”

    SEE ALSO: On second thought…Assad can stay

    “The prospect that the Islamists are going to be able to set up some sort of overarching political and military coordination and organizational structure should be troubling not only to the Syrian secular opposition, but also for Washington,” said David Schenker, director of the program on Arab politics at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

    ...

    Seth says
    and finally the resolution of the problem emerges ...

    U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to secure and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons

    The Washington Post Friday, September 27, 2013 8:33:06 PM

    National News Alert

    U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to secure and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons



    Seth says
    seth 2013-09-27 19:22:00 15825
    and finally the resolution of the problem emerges ...

    U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to secure and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons

    The Washington Post Friday, September 27, 2013 8:33:06 PM

    National News Alert

    U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to secure and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons


    Kewl .. under Russia's time table & direction - thanks Putin.  Will he do the same for Iran who is rumored to have chemical weapons as well?

    Seth says
    just now noticed that shit fuck plays sound !

    Seth says
    so perhaps this has been resolved without war


    .................................................................

    in other news Hezbolla is reported to have chemical wepons

    Seth says
    ME 2013-10-06 13:39:05 15825
    seth 2013-10-06 13:26:40 15825
    Live?  Did you check the software gadgets in the lower left & all the links for suspicious code?  I would just put the jpeg up.



    up to you ... just delete hackfuck.   me, i didn't seen any evidence of the possiblity of infection other than just the propoganda.  knowledge of the actual document itself outweighed any fear of what might have been there.  but that is just me, your domain, your responsibility.

    Seth says
    ME 2013-10-19 11:14:56 15825
    Official Obama red line

    (***)

    IamanI says
    Russia & Iran now in the war to prop up Assad - their puppet who is in opposition to the USA.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/01/cia-backed-rebels-civilians-reportedly-targeted-by-russian-airstrikes-in-syria/?intcmp=hpbt1
    ...

    Putin signs decree drafting 150,000 conscripts into the Russian military... as his jets launch new wave of air strikes in Syria

    • Russia launches second day of bombing runs on rebel groups in Syria
    • Putin's Chechen ally calls on Moscow to deploy Muslim troops against ISIS
    • Kremlin accused of targeting moderate rebels backed by U.S and not ISIS
    • Moscow foreign minister Lavrov rejected the 'rumours' as 'unfounded' 
    • Hundreds of Iranian and Hezbollah troops 'set to launch ground offensive'  


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3255876/Russia-pouring-gasoline-fire-Syria-s-civil-war-says-America-Putin-defies-West-drops-bombs-non-ISIS-forces-fighting-Assad.html#ixzz3nKYGc9HU 
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    ...

    Meanwhile HIPO-POTUS apparently drew a red line in the sand for Assad & he took it!


    Mark de LA says
    More gas? Still going on: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/04/at-least-100-dead-in-suspected-chemical-attack-in-syria-hospital-reportedly-hit.html 

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    9. Thought about: Virtual Torus with 4 viewings related by tag "iran".
    10. Thought Fun with Google Earth with 4 viewings related by tag "iran".
    11. Thought Hmmmm.... with 3 viewings related by tag "iran".
    12. Thought The FART of Peace - Lighting the Candle with 2 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    13. Thought War or Assassination ? with 2 viewings related by tag "syria".
    14. Thought I Call For A World Initiative to Eliminate All Nuclear Weapons with 1 viewings related by tag "iran".
    15. Thought SOS - This would be absolutely hilarious if it wer'nt so true with 1 viewings related by tag "iran".
    16. Thought The drums of war on Iran with 1 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    17. Thought Different Viewpoints with 1 viewings related by tag "syria".
    18. Thought about: Iranian official offers glimpse from within: A desire for U.S. ally with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    19. Thought Charm OFFENSIVE with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    20. Thought Wat up w/ dat? with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    21. Thought Surprising Build Up In Centrifuges At Natanz with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    22. Thought about: Is Iran planning a cataclysmic strike for August 22? with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    23. Thought This Russian is really cranking up an iran strike with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    24. Thought The Drums & Dogs of war with 0 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    25. Thought about: aljazeera.net with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    26. Thought The Secret Weapon is Hillary with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    27. Thought Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    28. Thought No Strategy with 0 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    29. Thought Hope & Change the Iran Way with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    30. Thought Global Pain with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    31. Thought Peckers in the SKY! with 0 viewings related by tag "drums of war syria".
    32. Thought The Buck Stops There! (Syria) with 0 viewings related by tag "syria".
    33. Thought Iranian diplomat kidnapped with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    34. Thought Are we following Zarqawi's plan ? with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    35. Thought Nuff Said with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    36. Thought Ahmadinejad's talk at the UN Security Council Event with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    37. Thought Pour concrete down their oil wells ! with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    38. Thought about: Iran is the real winner in the war on terror with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    39. Thought But they are getting Billions with Sanctions lifting with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    40. Thought Will Israel take out Iran's nukes ? with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    41. Thought Perverted Butterfly Effect with 0 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    42. Thought A fatwa against a potential invasion of Iran with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    43. Thought Paper Tigers, ALL! with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    44. Thought Chilling information with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    45. Thought Kum Ba Ya ??? with 0 viewings related by tag "al queda".
    46. Thought Such a nice man! with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    47. Thought Context for the masses with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    48. Thought Did Hamas Misread the Re-election of Obama? with 0 viewings related by tag "drums of war".
    49. Thought about: Iran uses plant as a message of defiance with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".
    50. Thought Mamoud's Speech to the UN - Bamboozled! with 0 viewings related by tag "iran".