While Losing One War O Does an About Face

About: leon panetta: worth the price? | fox news

...Meanwhile Panetta, his Secretary of Defense Jets around on the taxpayer $ unrelated to the job.

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  1. class warfare
  2. afganistan

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Seth says
Well i just recently decided that Obams should get us out of Afghanistan ASAP ... escalating that as he promised to do in the 2008 campaign was a mistake.   It's not about loosing a war, it's about waisting our resources, both human and moral.  There is no way we can spread our style democracy to Afghanistan ... that is a lost cause.  Unfortunately i fault Obama for being so afraid of the far right and loosing the election that he will probably not stick his neck out. 

On the other direction, John Stewart crisps it up for you ...




Mark de LA says
seth 2012-04-19 14:35:07 15943
M 2012-04-19 14:03:38 15943
It isn't fear of the right it's more of not wanting to campaign for 4 more years while losing a war.

Yeah nobody wants to be accused of loosing a war and the hawks would doubtlessly jump all over that one.  I expressed it more precisely on facebook.  This is kind of a courage thingey ... apparently Obama is in short supply.  Still and all i would prefer him to an overt hawk like McCain, Romney, or Gingrich.
Yeah, I would prefer an actual leader with courage instead. About anyone could do better.


Mark de LA says
OTOH, While class warfare may be the meat & potatoes of his never ending re-election campaign (bigger than previous presidents $ince Carter combined so far) - the real danger appears to be the AlQueda connection to the Taliban.
Source: ... ago show a close working relationship between top al-Qaida leaders and Mullah Omar, the overall commander of the Taliban, including frequent discussions of joint operations against Nato forces in Afghanistan, the Afghan government and targets in Pakistan.

The communications show a three-way conversation between Bin Laden, his then deputy Ayman Zawahiri and Omar, who is believed to have been in Pakistan since fleeing Afghanistan after the collapse of his regime in 2001.

They indicate a "very considerable degree of ideological convergence", a Washington-based source familiar with the documents told the Guardian.

The news will undermine hopes of a negotiated peace in Afghanistan, where the key debate among analysts and policymakers is whether the Taliban – seen by many as following an Afghan nationalist agenda – might once again offer a safe haven to al-Qaida or like-minded militants, or whether they can be persuaded to renounce terrorism.

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Mark de LA says
seth 2012-04-30 09:02:57 15943
Another good reason to get out of Afghanistan ASAP emerged in the news Sunday ...
source: Guardian
The news will undermine hopes of a negotiated peace in Afghanistan, where the key debate among analysts and policymakers is whether the Taliban ��" seen by many as following an Afghan nationalist agenda ��" might once again offer a safe haven to al-Qaida or like-minded militants, or whether they can be persuaded to renounce terrorism.
 ... I doubt that a "negotiated peace in Afghanistan" would be anything that could be relied upon to keep terrorists out of that country anyway.  (see fb)
Yep, if you want to just give back Afganistan to AlQueda - stick your tail beween your legs & bend over - this is the right time.  YOu might even get a boost in the polls for re-election.


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