mentography of items

[see: tag quads]
[see: title quads]



Groups, and rooms (tag, title, whatever) are contexts. 
Let us read the quads off of the diagram

Context
Subject
verb
object
group seth
mentography of items
tagged
mentography
group seth
mentography of items
see
For humans to read and edit quads, they should be displayed and edited with humanly understood words.
group seth
mentography of items see
quads
mentograph
mentography of items tagged
mentograph
mentograph mentography of items see
For humans to read and edit quads, they should be displayed and edited with humanly understood words.
mentograph mentography of items see
quads

Now some of those are kind of redundant and we may not want to store them all, but given the three arrows above and the contexts that have been identified, those are infact the quads that obtain.

Tags

  1. mentography
  2. items
  3. quads
  4. taggings
  5. tag ontology

Comments


Mark de LA says
I get that this mentograph is talking about this item itself - pretty kewl! Your context ellipses are also some kind of labeled object in this diagram & almost seem to need to be in the right hand object column. Is there room for the syntax of the comments in here ?

Mark de LA says
The comments are part of a symloop as well, eh ?

Mark de LA says
Why is this the best time to introduce this?

Mark de LA says
Is the server in here somewhere ? Will we eventually need pents ?

Mark de LA says
Is this somehow related to the ultimate match ?

Seth says
I don't know all these answers. Mostly i just made these items to start thinking about them.

Seth says
Mark 2005-10-20 22:12:03 1605
I get that this mentograph is talking about this item itself - pretty kewl! Your context ellipses are also some kind of labeled object in this diagram & almost seem to need to be in the right hand object column. Is there room for the syntax of the comments in here ?
Actually those "context ellipses" have a column reserved for them.  It is the first column on the left.   After posting im now thinking that the most practical context to record is the group.  Taggings already have their own db and that db already records the arrows that i included in the daggram labeled with "tagged".   So there really are only 2 quads that would need to be recorded from this item.

One thing that motivates this is where do we record the things that are generated for (and control) the group and author dashboards ?  We prolly do not want to generate new items for them and extracting the info on the fly from the items themselves is gonna be a real hassel.  So there may be a real practical value in these quads. 

Mark de LA says
 - Just thought CyberMind had arrived overnight

Mark de LA says
Mark 2005-10-21 13:10:11 1605
 - Just thought CyberMind had arrived overnight

 Anyway I think implementing this will give us a leg up in the Web 2.0 wars - very much in progress, particularly good CyberMind functions.

Seth says
Mark 2005-10-21 13:14:08 1605
Mark 2005-10-21 13:10:11 1605
 - Just thought CyberMind had arrived overnight

 Anyway I think implementing this will give us a leg up in the Web 2.0 wars - very much in progress, particularly good CyberMind functions.

Well it is quite a design problem  figuring out how to input quads and how to show them in general and how to navigate them.   They kind of fight with the item structure ... perhaps we need quad rooms [quads * XXSUBJECT XXVERB XXOBJECT]  which would give you in some manner of display all of the quads in all contexts with those parameters. 
it is quite a design issue .. not sure i want to tackle it prior to opening
well i spell checked this in IE and then kept on trucking so what [title

Mark de LA says
In the end, in FastBlogIt, you will only be able to specify something which points at a paragraph or sentence or something in Natural Language. Another way to put it is that the cheese at the end of the maze is for the human.  I don't see how quads can go inside that. I'm open to that it might be better than a keyword search or fancy search like google search for something. There is very little to get inside a comment at all. Comments may or not be within the context of the items they appear with. How do you describe a comment ? There are no tags for the comments. I guess discipline can keep them pertinent to the items upon which they are attached. 

With a quad can one expect to bring up a room that is more interesting than a tag or a title can find ?

Mark de LA says
Oooo! Can a quad (manipulator) ultimately go inside a comment & seek out other quads and other items for other quads .....etc. ? Now that would be more like CyberMind.

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