Doomsday

About: algore: we have ten years left before earth cooks - the rush limbaugh show

Algore, who has been summoned along with Bill C. to dig Obama out of the hole he has created, predicted ~ 7 years ago that doomsday would happen due to global warming.  Here is a snapshot of the clock Rush posts on his website:

Do you suppose that whole cabal can stop it by the end of a second term?

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  1. doomsday
  2. global warming
  3. global skeptics
  4. item 16103

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Mark de LA says
seth 2012-07-31 10:14:30 16107
Interesting ... i was wondering in 16103 if the latest study by a well known skeptic would change deniers attitudes ... apparently in your case it had no effect.   This item, which echos a  2006 challenge by Rush sheds no new light on the issue ... except, of course, to reaffirm that Mark is steadfast in his beliefs.  Me, well i'm not so very sure that the Muller study does change anything ... it just  substantially agrees with the IPCC and lays to rest, in my mind, the idea that sun spots could account for the increased temperature and reports that the increase is on the high end of the spectrum. 

Where did you get that "Algore, who has been summoned along with Bill C. to dig Obama out of the hole he has created"  ?  I cannot easily find where that came from. 

That said, i think a lot of people have already acknowledged that Al Gore exaggerated and promoted fear.  I guess we will just need some decades to pass to see if he had good cause.
Google around you will find the links, probably near the Drudge Report.  Not wasting my time. Poking fun at Algore is just low hanging fruit.  We are just a mere 3+ years from Armageddon by his prediction (see truth somewhere) shouldn't we see more than just another hot summer?  Notice this boondoggle shows up just about every Summer. BTW, you should put your Muller pasteries back on [political: item 16103]


Mark de LA says
JunkScience: ... However each announcement has been aggressively trialled in the press not only before the peer review process had judged them ready for publication – which may not be a major issue – but also before anyone outside the BEST project could examine the papers at all. This requires the ordinary reader to take BEST’s accompanying press releases on blind faith – which is not a barrier for some journalists, but is far short of acceptable practice. (The publicity is handled by Muller’s daughter Elizabeth, who is the actual executive director of BEST. Ms Muller holds degrees in Literature and International Management, and has worked as a consultant in such fields as e-government, “profitable sustainability” and government energy policy. In fact she still does, alongside her work at BEST.)
Now an independent expert who peer-reviewed one of the four new BEST journal submissions has published his comments. The BEST team stated that the paper had not been rejected by peer review and no major flaws had been discovered. This does not appear to be true: the Journal of Geophysical Research ended up rejecting the BEST paper on UHI (Urban Heat Island) effects.
... What else would you expect out of Berkeley, California?
If it isn't about politics how do you account for the nasty comments left at the website & Bozo's.  DOES SCIENCE have emotions in it outside of psychology?


Mark de LA says
seth 2012-07-31 14:29:27 16107
source: re "Algore, who has been summoned along with Bill C. to dig Obama out of the hole he has created"
Google around you will find the links, probably near the Drudge Report.  Not wasting my time.
me neither ... it will just remain an un-sourced bloviation ... that's about what it's worth ... just like the "Muller pasteries" of your last sentence ... who care's what those are.

Try this:  imagine that you know the world is headed into a major catastrophy ... just for a moment assume that your are 100% convinced ... and that it will happen unless the world changes course.  So you can think fresh, don't use global warming ... use some other kind of event.   What do you do?  Do you tippy-toe and get all mild, studious and hesitant about telling the world.  Try that thought experiment ... then come back to me and tell me whether you can mock the man with quite so much glee.
It's all about politics and population control, DUDE .  For a scientist to massage readings is subserviant to a concensus on a UN report is not science it's politics.  But you want the UN to control things.  Good luck. Phooey.


Mark de LA says
source: ...

A few individuals aside, most climate sceptics think the world is moderately warmer than before, that humans have had some effect, but that most of the variation is natural and not particularly worrisome. Another band of sceptics – those who might be called ‘policy sceptics’, like Bjorn Lomborg and Roger Pielke Jr – broadly accept the IPCC’s view of temperature change and its causes. However, they think that the answer lies in devoting resources to technological development in the short term rather than a costly and probably futile attempt to decarbonise the world overnight. But even such policy disagreement is too much for the alarmists, who regularly pillory Lomborg in particular, yet it gets dressed up as ‘scientific fact’.

This last point rather gives the game away. What is really being contested is a political worldview in which human beings are seen as a blight on the planet. If some greens had their way, humanity would quietly shuffle off and leave Mother Earth in peace. More realistically, the aim of environmentalists is to reduce the human population and economic growth, so that a sustainable number of people live in a ‘steady state’ economy in harmony with the natural world. Such an outlook is romantic, in the worst possible sense, and downright misanthropic.

Whether the planet is warming or not, and whether it is human beings causing that warming or not, the only question that is worth answering is this: what is the best way forward for humanity? Trying to close down debate through censorious demands or through publicity stunts – which is effectively what Muller is attempting to pull off here – is the very opposite of a human-centred outlook.

... Yep lead by the politician Algore & his panic doomsday scenario the Con Game  is ON. Interesting enough the Green initiatives of the Obama administration lead by the communist Green Czar (former) Van Jones seem mostly to have failed & provided tax money to contributors to his campaign: Solyndra is the most public, but there are others going on as we speak: http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/volt/2012/2012-chevrolet-volt-becomes-centerpiece-of-smart-community.html  ... to prop up the GM losses - (remember the bailout? )



Mark de LA says
While this phrase was used in a comment on 4620 I find it so descriptive of the green effort in this administration:
source: ... but the profit from this bonanza is being looted by the organized crime-apparatchik kleptocracy that is ruling the country," he said.
...


Mark de LA says
One of the more fascinating components of electric cars is the amount and source of the metals involved.  Copper is important for motors.  There is also the rare Earth metals involved in batteries & other components.
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_round_up/534700/electric_cars_and_wind_turbines_face_metal_supply_shortages.html


Mark de LA says
Imagine his FEAR thought experiment.  BE the fear! SUCK IT UP! (the TED)


Seth says
M 2012-08-02 11:32:06 16107
seth 2012-08-02 11:24:20 16107
M 2012-08-02 11:16:48 16107
seth 2012-08-02 11:05:38 16107
M 2012-07-31 23:56:31 16107
seth 2012-07-31 14:29:27 16107
source: re "Algore, who has been summoned along with Bill C. to dig Obama out of the hole he has created"
Google around you will find the links, probably near the Drudge Report.  Not wasting my time.
me neither ... it will just remain an un-sourced bloviation ... that's about what it's worth ... just like the "Muller pasteries" of your last sentence ... who care's what those are.

Try this:  imagine that you know the world is headed into a major catastrophy ... just for a moment assume that your are 100% convinced ... and that it will happen unless the world changes course.  So you can think fresh, don't use global warming ... use some other kind of event.   What do you do?  Do you tippy-toe and get all mild, studious and hesitant about telling the world.  Try that thought experiment ... then come back to me and tell me whether you can mock the man with quite so much glee.
It's all about politics and population control, DUDE .  For a scientist to massage readings is subserviant to a concensus on a UN report is not science it's politics.  But you want the UN to control things.  Good luck. Phooey.

Of course it is politics ... the politics of getting the world to get off it's duff to deal with the proposed impending catastrophe ... there is nothing scientific about that effort ... it's about motivating poeple.   Apparently you didn't do the thought experiment ... too bad ... you may have gleaned a comprehension of Gore's efforts ... but then, of course, that comprehension is not your agenda.
BAD PREMISES LEAD TO BAD CONCLUSIONS. SHIT AT THE START OF AN EXPERIMENT LEADS TO SHIT IN YOUR HAND!  enjoy~ chicken little the sun is falling.

wow ... your tolerance for content free RWG is incredible !
You obviously didn't read any of my links & continued with RWG, what's left? Here is a fascinating question I asked but none of the math showed up http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+many+generations+until+the+Earth+is+full%3F .  A Malthusian sounding Limey jerk-off says the Earth is full already.  (Prolly one of your buddies).
 
there are no links in this thread... except the ones you just put there. 

But i did follow some of your other links and found materials that i had already incorporated in my item or were irrelivant bloviations.  I don't usually comment on stuff unless it has just some hint of a new idea that i hadn't already ever heard ... even if it goes tilt to my world view.  However this thread did contain such a though for you ... to my knowledge you have never done that thought experiment ... sorry you missed it.

Mark de LA says
M 2012-08-02 11:42:41 16107
You missed  the TED talk on the Earth is Full, DUDE
You & your Malthusian and Algore buddies have you all boxed in:


Mark de LA says
As a postscript to "bonanza is being looted by the organized crime-apparatchik kleptocracy that is ruling the country" - I submit:
http://nation.foxnews.com/solyndra/2012/08/02/emails-solyndra-took-sales-pitch-directly-obama
 Lets invent businesses for the government to invest in & then buy their products for the government since our business plans are otherwise not viable.
SSDD!

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-08-02 12:05:51 16107
M 2012-08-02 11:42:41 16107
You missed  the TED talk on the Earth is Full, DUDE
didn't miss it ... didn't have anything to do with my point which was the experiment i proposed you do.  ... but yeah ... the earth is full is a funny meme .

btw, your stuff like "DUDE " is usually taken here as some  kind of a meta meta meta provocation.  Perhaps it refers to something that you presume to be real ... but whatever it might refer to is unknown to me and most likely unknowable.  My experience of it feels something like this ... but i'm curious ... what do you experience when you write it? <- that actually is a serious question ... not in the same plane as this RWG.
I will never answer that question the way you want as long as you contunue to do ad hominem shit. It's just a reflection of you. You missed his thought experiment which was a lot better than yours.


Mark de LA says
M 2012-08-02 11:34:29 16107
Imagine his FEAR thought experiment.  BE the fear! SUCK IT UP! (the TED)

Or in the immortal words of Rahm Emmanuel (Obama Buddy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow


Mark de LA says
seth 2012-08-02 15:36:35 16107
M 2012-08-02 12:11:55 16107
seth 2012-08-02 12:05:51 16107
M 2012-08-02 11:42:41 16107
You missed  the TED talk on the Earth is Full, DUDE
didn't miss it ... didn't have anything to do with my point which was the experiment i proposed you do.  ... but yeah ... the earth is full is a funny meme .

btw, your stuff like "DUDE " is usually taken here as some  kind of a meta meta meta provocation.  Perhaps it refers to something that you presume to be real ... but whatever it might refer to is unknown to me and most likely unknowable.  My experience of it feels something like this ... but i'm curious ... what do you experience when you write it? <- that actually is a serious question ... not in the same plane as this RWG.
I will never answer that question the way you want as long as you contunue to do ad hominem shit. It's just a reflection of you. You missed his thought experiment which was a lot better than yours.

.. which is kind of strange, since just about every one of your comments includes an ad-hominem against me.  I suppose you can't smell your own  shit.  But i don't really care ... the only thing  that continues to sadden me is that we don't seem to be able to get his kind of so called "dialogue" go grow or improve.  Actually trying to honestly answer serious questions might help ... but, oh well. 
Pretending to be rational, logical & scientific when you want to & then impuning my resources & not even following my arguments will never create a converstion.  Using Pathos when your logic fails you will also not create a conversation. 
I guess this one is over now

Mark de LA says
seth 2012-08-03 07:24:58 16107
M 2012-08-02 17:48:27 16107
seth 2012-08-02 15:36:35 16107
M 2012-08-02 12:11:55 16107
seth 2012-08-02 12:05:51 16107
M 2012-08-02 11:42:41 16107
You missed  the TED talk on the Earth is Full, DUDE
didn't miss it ... didn't have anything to do with my point which was the experiment i proposed you do.  ... but yeah ... the earth is full is a funny meme .

btw, your stuff like "DUDE " is usually taken here as some  kind of a meta meta meta provocation.  Perhaps it refers to something that you presume to be real ... but whatever it might refer to is unknown to me and most likely unknowable.  My experience of it feels something like this ... but i'm curious ... what do you experience when you write it? <- that actually is a serious question ... not in the same plane as this RWG.
I will never answer that question the way you want as long as you contunue to do ad hominem shit. It's just a reflection of you. You missed his thought experiment which was a lot better than yours.

.. which is kind of strange, since just about every one of your comments includes an ad-hominem against me.  I suppose you can't smell your own  shit.  But i don't really care ... the only thing  that continues to sadden me is that we don't seem to be able to get his kind of so called "dialogue" go grow or improve.  Actually trying to honestly answer serious questions might help ... but, oh well. 
Pretending to be rational, logical & scientific when you want to & then impuning my resources & not even following my arguments will never create a converstion.  Using Pathos when your logic fails you will also not create a conversation. 
I guess this one is over now
Yep, i don't follow most of your arguments anymore just because thy always end up insulting me and changing the subject ... way too painful ... not any fun and not enlightening at all  .
The whizzard goes all in for the RWG - (can't read a sign) anymore will summarily get unked. There will be no further warnings, 4413 now applies. 


Seth says
this girl really does need to Chill out...



Mark de LA says

Doomsday clock ran out !  How does the post-doomday feel this morning? laughinglaughinglaughing
We are still being taxed to prevent it! But now the rest of the countries are trying to tax the rich countries to prevent it! Was it ever about anything except money & politics?
See also this

Mark de LA says
nathan 2016-03-15 07:17:22 [item 16107#49432]
Perhaps Al Gore will be Trumped!  
Seth 2016-03-15 07:25:10 [item 16107#49434]

Who knows …

it is the Ides of March!
Mark 2016-03-15 07:44:44 [item 16107#49438]
Thanks for your random association. No relationship to global warming in it. Did you confuse this item with a public urinal?surprise
nathan 2016-03-15 07:48:58 [item 16107#49440]
Do you confuse your brain with a calculator? Does it only make simple logical associations for you?

I understood Seth’s reference perfectly. It very nicely matches the context of your comment.  
Mark 2016-03-15 07:54:58 [item 16107#49442]
So now we have 3 people pissing down the same hole – what a relief, eh? 
nathan 2016-03-15 07:58:15 [item 16107#49443]
I was enjoying your simple comment about Gore’s dooms day … adding my own to it, enjoying Seth’s perspective added … and then your the one who came along and started pissing on all of that. Your the instigator of rwg with your “Did you confuse this item with a public urinal?surprise”. 

Everyone else was just enjoying the view and having good conversation.
So how many times did you shake it, eh nathan?  Seth must still be shaking it or just jacking-off! Reframe, deframe: same old stream. laughing

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