Culture?

Etymology & meaning of the word:

culture (n.) Look up culture at Dictionary.commid-15c., "the tilling of land," from Middle French culture and directly from Latin cultura "a cultivating, agriculture," figuratively "care, culture, an honoring," from past participle stem of colere "tend, guard, cultivate, till" (see cult). The figurative sense of "cultivation through education" is first attested c.1500. Meaning "the intellectual side of civilization" is from 1805; that of "collective customs and achievements of a people" is from 1867. For without culture or holiness, which are always the gift of a very few, a man may renounce wealth or any other external thing, but he cannot renounce hatred, envy, jealousy, revenge. Culture is the sanctity of the intellect. [William Butler Yeats] Slang culture vulture is from 1947. Culture shock first recorded 1940.
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Examples of proud modern culture from the news
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Obama's Budget 'Worse Than Everyone Thinks'...

Cuts just $186 billion in spending -- over 10 years...


Liberals blast... CHICAGOLAND: Daughter of Obama's Former Pastor Indicted...

STUDY: NEW GENERATION UNHEALTHY...

15 years 'older' than parents at same age...
STUDY: 'Social media' makes people ruder; Cuts short friendships...

Teenager commits suicide after gang-rape photo goes viral...

ANONYMOUS: We will expose rapists...

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Comments


Mark de LA says
seth 2013-04-11 08:24:50 16478
Incidentally, none of the things you have listed above do i consider examples of the culture that i actually live in. 
Except that they fit your description of what is culture!


Mark de LA says
seth 2013-04-11 08:11:14 16478
I had toyed with using other words for this ... like "society" or "civilization"  ... but i settled on using the word "culture".  

Anyway when i use the word "culture" i am referring to the collective behaviors, habits, customs and objects with which we interact and partake as we live our lives.  Those can be considered distinct from our private thoughts, imaginings, intuitions and feelings.  The latter are inside our beings, the former are  outside. 
Yep, culture can be anything it is abstract! My point entirely! Not to be worshiped! Not these days anyway.


Mark de LA says
seth 2013-04-11 09:06:59 16478
M 2013-04-11 08:25:49 16478
seth 2013-04-11 08:11:14 16478
I had toyed with using other words for this ... like "society" or "civilization"  ... but i settled on using the word "culture".  

Anyway when i use the word "culture" i am referring to the collective behaviors, habits, customs and objects with which we interact and partake as we live our lives.  Those can be considered distinct from our private thoughts, imaginings, intuitions and feelings.  The latter are inside our beings, the former are  outside. 
Yep, culture can be anything it is abstract! My point entirely! Not to be worshiped! Not these days anyway.


"Worshiped" would be your particular prejudiced description of something that i am *not* doing. 

I do, however, respect and participate in my culture and in the culture that i find on the Internet and in social media.  I do not abhor it as you appear to do at times.  It is what it is.  I try to navigate myself to that area of it with which i can usefully interact.
Yep, I live life too & interact with my environment! A lot of overdoing the culture thingy is in the race area & politics as exemplified by political correctness.

Mark de LA says
seth 2013-04-11 08:59:55 16478
M 2013-04-11 08:26:35 16478
seth 2013-04-11 08:24:50 16478
Incidentally, none of the things you have listed above do i consider examples of the culture that i actually live in. 
Except that they fit your description of what is culture!


Note that when we more tangibly speak of culture we speak of a specifc culture ... like "the culture that i actually live in" ... or perhaps, "the culture in Washington these days" ... or perhaps, "the culture in middle class America".   Most of us actually live in different cultures.  Nathan lives is a completely different culture up there in Maine, i live in a slightly different culture here in Renton than you do in Pleasantville. 

I would call your list examples of the culture of journalistic snark on the Internet ... for me, they belong to *that* culture.  It is not the culture in which  i live.  The actual events of which the stories talk and in which real people partake,  me thinks, you would find quite different than the descriptions in these articles.

Is that specific enough for you?
Nope! culture is still an abstract word & a paradigm that exalts it beyond just plain LIFE!


Mark de LA says
It is mostly about nominalization in the NLP sense.


Seth says
M 2013-04-11 10:23:58 16478
seth 2013-04-11 10:11:20 16478
M 2013-04-11 09:30:47 16478
seth 2013-04-11 09:06:59 16478
M 2013-04-11 08:25:49 16478
seth 2013-04-11 08:11:14 16478
I had toyed with using other words for this ... like "society" or "civilization"  ... but i settled on using the word "culture".  

Anyway when i use the word "culture" i am referring to the collective behaviors, habits, customs and objects with which we interact and partake as we live our lives.  Those can be considered distinct from our private thoughts, imaginings, intuitions and feelings.  The latter are inside our beings, the former are  outside. 
Yep, culture can be anything it is abstract! My point entirely! Not to be worshiped! Not these days anyway.


"Worshiped" would be your particular prejudiced description of something that i am *not* doing. 

I do, however, respect and participate in my culture and in the culture that i find on the Internet and in social media.  I do not abhor it as you appear to do at times.  It is what it is.  I try to navigate myself to that area of it with which i can usefully interact.
Yep, I live life too & interact with my environment! A lot of overdoing the culture thingy is in the race area & politics as exemplified by political correctness.

LOL ... referring just to "your environment" is a far more generalized reference and says a whole lot less that saying that "you interact with your culture". 

What strikes me so very strange, if you are actually being honest here, is that mushing up the distinction called "culture" with the whole "race & politics and political correctness" propaganda tells me volumes about how your thinking has become corrupted.  Distinguishing your interaction with culture from your interaction with your private thoughts, feelings, and intuitions has absolutely nothing to do with that propaganda (left or right) ... nothing whatsoever. 
You have an uncanny ability to fail mind-reading & what you think I am thinking here. You have yet to get my point! You may never get it!



Well that is why i quite intentionally stuck in there the proviso: "if you are actually being honest here".   In other words if you have said what you meant and meant what you said, and also perhaps understood what i said and meant about culture, then your sentence "A lot of overdoing the culture thingy is in the race area & politics as exemplified by political correctness" can only be interpreted as *connecting* my conceptions of culture with race, politics and political correctness.

Now there certainly is a whole lot of race, politics, and pressures to be politically correct in our culture at large.  Was that all you meant?   My thing is:  how is that trivial common knowledge connected with what i was talking about culture?   How is "race, politics, and political correctness" connected to "the collective behaviors, habits, customs and objects with which we interact and partake as we live our lives"?

Now if i were a politician in Washington or a political commentator on the radio, i can certainly see how your characterization would be my culture.  But i am neither of those, and nor are you. 

Everybody interacts with and lives within some culture or another ... some world ... some story of what is happening around them.  There are lots of these different stories or cultures all intermingled and interacting in the world at large.  That is simply my description of how things obtain in the world.  Do you find it different?

Mine is not a liberal political statement and has nothing to do with the politics of multiculturalism.  What seems so very strange to me is that your stated thinking would twist it back to being about politics.  What is your reason for making it about politics?

Mark de LA says
seth 2013-04-11 09:43:20 16478
M 2013-04-11 09:22:26 16478
seth 2013-04-11 08:59:55 16478
M 2013-04-11 08:26:35 16478
seth 2013-04-11 08:24:50 16478
Incidentally, none of the things you have listed above do i consider examples of the culture that i actually live in. 
Except that they fit your description of what is culture!


Note that when we more tangibly speak of culture we speak of a specifc culture ... like "the culture that i actually live in" ... or perhaps, "the culture in Washington these days" ... or perhaps, "the culture in middle class America".   Most of us actually live in different cultures.  Nathan lives is a completely different culture up there in Maine, i live in a slightly different culture here in Renton than you do in Pleasantville. 

I would call your list examples of the culture of journalistic snark on the Internet ... for me, they belong to *that* culture.  It is not the culture in which  i live.  The actual events of which the stories talk and in which real people partake,  me thinks, you would find quite different than the descriptions in these articles.

Is that specific enough for you?
Nope! culture is still an abstract word & a paradigm that exalts it beyond just plain LIFE!


It does not "exault" at all ... it just refers.  It is a fine distinction.  It distinguishes parts of "plain life" from other parts of "plain life".   Sorry that you do not find it useful ... i don't know what else to say.
What I am saying is that the word culture is a useless distinction! YES!

Mark de LA says
Yep - still failing - makes me want to delete the whole thing.  The link above on nominalization applies more than any of your questions will reveal.
Namaste,
Bye


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