Fair Witnesses

About: Wikipedia link to Fair Witnesses in (Heinlein)

Years ago when I created this group UnhackTheBrain I had hoped somehow that something like fair-witnessing & a repository of events & happenings (free of spin) would take hold somewhere in the media or available over the Internet. Note the contents of the header for this group.  Instead with the proliferation of social media, political polarization, & plain old lies, more prevalent than truth, I mourn the loss of truth.  Even some claim there is no such thing as truth any longer. How sad - really sad.

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Comments


Mark de LA says
seth 2013-07-15 08:41:53 16641

I want fair witnesses too.  Someone who can be totally objective ... has no agenda of their own, not even their own career or profit.   That is an ideal that every journalists and jurists should strive for.  Some do, some do not.

But, by and large, we are all human and thrust ourselves into our lives doing it from our particular motives and agendas.  For example, what was yours below?

source: mark, disallowed on 16637
It is not worth talking to someone who can't tell the difference between what happens & the shit that runs around in his head about it!


Simple - someone who can't tell the truth or can't tell the difference between what happens & the garbage he/she/it finds in his/her/its own mind is not worth talking to except in a confined setting like a nut house.
I prefer you take stuff posted on other groups & leave them there.  Two can play with the delete & disallow puppy.


Seth says
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MR 2013-07-15 07:32:19 16637
BTW, most of the news is shit running around in so-called reporters & bloggers minds about something but rarely a fair-witness account of what happened.


this is true .

Mark de LA says
Fascinating it is that the Wikipedia article on this shit is not too bad.
I gleaned this information from it on their relative sizes & weights:
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George Zimmerman (at booking) - 5 ft 7 - weighed 185
Trayvon Martin - 5 ft 11 - weighed 158


Mark de LA says
seth 2013-07-15 10:56:12 16641
MR 2013-07-15 10:41:49 16641
seth 2013-07-15 10:21:23 16641
MR 2013-07-15 10:12:10 16641
seth 2013-07-15 09:17:34 16641
source: me
i just heard a crow go "kaw kaw" outside my window.  i usually love the sound of birds.  i loved that kawing too.  the crows are continuing to kaw ... some kind of a territorial dispute no doubt. 
I use this here as an example that i am quite clear in my mind and in my language about what is "in my head" and what is not.   When you accuse me of not being able to "tell the difference" with no objective explanation, you are doing me a grave disservice.  I take that as an example of you not being a fair witness. 
The "territorial dispute" is your imagination unless you are an expert at reading bird-brains!


well yes definitely.   could you not read my relation to that supposition directly in the language i used?   It is in fact where something is stated as an actual fact where it is just imiginagtion or supposition that being a fair witness is broken.  Here i stated it as something that could be doubted ... even thought i have read naturalists articles to the contrary ... that is what the sentence says.
Yep, still can't tell fact from imagination.

oh really?   And what is your evidence in my actual words from which you conclude that about me?
You just continue to give me examples like mind-reading a crow's purpose.  Please take this shit & return it to your own group seth  . Next one will go there without comment.


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