Evolution of Warfare - Wars Drone On

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Many, many years ago after the Revolution: ...

The Congress shall have Power To ...declare War....

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 (U.S. Constitution)
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CNN: ...

(CNN) -- A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.

Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.

None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.

... political or just another extension of the Bush doctrine? Is there a War on Terror or even terror or war or police action or ??????
At least Bush went to Congress to get authorization for Iraq invasion. No invasion - no war?  What happens when Al Queda or the Palestinians or Iraq get & start using their drones against US?
... How's that empathy working out for Islamic radicals?
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Shakespeare: ... ... & FYI the dogs of war quote: Julius Caesar, Act III, scene i.
Anthony:
       "O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,
  That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
  Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
  That ever lived in the tide of times.
  Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!
  Over thy wounds now do I prophesy,--
  Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips,
  To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue--
  A curse shall light upon the limbs of men;
  Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
  Shall cumber all the parts of Italy;
  Blood and destruction shall be so in use
  And dreadful objects so familiar
  That mothers shall but smile when they behold
  Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
  All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
  And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
  With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
  Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
  Cry  'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
  That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
  With carrion men, groaning for burial."
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Tags

  1. terror
  2. war-on-terror
  3. drones
  4. un failure
  5. drums of war yemen

Comments


Seth says
well it seems to me that when someone is intending to kill Americans in our embassies, we have already past the point with them, where empathy is going to be a good defense mechanism ...
source: Lenard Cohen

Maybe there’s a God above
But all I’ve ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
It’s not a cry you can hear at night
It’s not somebody who has seen the light
It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah
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save the empathy for other people ... see if we can interact with them in a way such that  they don't  want to kill us.


Mark de LA says
Yep, that's one of my favorite stanzas from Hallelejuh mostly about eternal triangle of man, woman & God.
Here's my suggestion:
Put this song, or preferably the closing song from "Dr. Strangelove" & think of your children & grand children & their children while reading the "Dogs of War" soliloquy & then cry your fucking eyes out until you come up with some kind of real & permanents solution to this madness.



Seth says
M 2013-08-06 10:42:42 16682
Yep, that's one of my favorite stanzas from Hallelejuh mostly about eternal triangle of man, woman & God.
Here's my suggestion:
Put this song, or preferably the closing song from "Dr. Strangelove" & think of your children & grand children & their children while reading the "Dogs of War" soliloquy & then cry your fucking eyes out until you come up with some kind of real & permanents solution to this madness.



"real and permanent solution to this madness"

Mark de LA says
Obama's 1st question on terrorist threat to come from comedian!

Mark de LA says
How appropriate from Werner this AM. (Wait until the end to react, please!)
“In this conversation we discover another possibility: living in a way, now, moment to moment, that makes a difference to life. We discover that as human beings we can live in a possibility instead of in what we have inherited, that instead of just being a human being because we were born that way, we can declare the possibility of being for human beings. This is the work of transformation: bringing forth a breakthrough in the possibility of being human.”

--Werner Erhard
(*) - an opportunity & invitation to jump outside the box

Mark de LA says
seth 2013-08-07 06:57:00 16682
M 2013-08-06 23:51:08 16682
seth 2013-08-06 22:33:15 16682
M 2013-08-06 10:42:42 16682
Yep, that's one of my favorite stanzas from Hallelejuh mostly about eternal triangle of man, woman & God.
Here's my suggestion:
Put this song, or preferably the closing song from "Dr. Strangelove" & think of your children & grand children & their children while reading the "Dogs of War" soliloquy & then cry your fucking eyes out until you come up with some kind of real & permanents solution to this madness.



"real and permanent solution to this madness"
I'm looking at the long game, the long haul for the human race - not just as long as a presidential race for an election.  It is NOT a laughing matter. Perhaps for you it is. I guess there really is only one way to say it to you:



so you presume that is something that you are just going to come up with ... something that your just going to think up ... after crying about it?

  .... hmmm ... long term decided upon top down evolution ... ... now me, i can only call that extraordinary confusion
I am addressing the (assumed) human race to which you may be a part.  Too bad you are confused about that too. Of course your solution to the oil problem was to cement in all the wells so I am not likely to hear anything real or practical except your continuous daily confusion on this issue either.  Eventually in conversation (look up the etymology/definition of that word) solutions will show up. Calling everything confusion or distraction is an an obamafishhook anti-meme.  (hmm..... must focus on the king's agenda ; must focus on the king's agenda ... to infinity & beyond ..)
Obviously you didn't bother to try the thought experiment described.


Mark de LA says
Shall I start a new tagroom on Drums of War Yemen ?
RPaul: ... The US government is clearly at war in Yemen. It is claimed they are fighting al-Qaeda, but the drone strikes are creating as many or more al-Qaeda members as they are eliminating. Resentment over civilian casualties is building up the danger of blowback, which is a legitimate threat to us that is unfortunately largely ignored. Also, the US is sending mixed signals by attacking al-Qaeda in Yemen while supporting al-Qaeda linked rebels fighting in Syria.
 
This cycle of intervention producing problems that require more intervention to “solve” impoverishes us and makes us more, not less, vulnerable. Can anyone claim this old approach is successful? Has it produced one bit of stability in the region? Does it have one success story? There is an alternative. It is called non-interventionism. We should try it. First step would be pulling out of Yemen.
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Talking Heads: ... same as it ever was ... same as it ever was
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Seth says
Ron Paul: ... Why? To what end? And most importantly, where is the authorization? On whose permission does the US Special Forces Command conduct war in 70 to 90 countries at any given time? Are there stacks of hidden declarations of war somewhere that no American knows about? The constitution gives the president no power at all to make war on any given day in 70 to 90 countries, to use secret forces to undermine domestic political currents in favor of movements and politicians that the US elites judge to be "in line" with their interests. Again it is the sign of a nation that has lost its way.
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Seth says
source: ...

Scientists, engineers and policymakers are all figuring out ways drones can be used better and more smartly, more precise and less damaging to civilians, with longer range and better staying power. One method under development is by increasing autonomy on the drone itself.

Eventually, drones may have the technical ability to make even lethal decisions autonomously: to respond to a programmed set of inputs, select a target and fire their weapons without a human reviewing or checking the result. Yet the idea of the U.S. military deploying a lethal autonomous robot, or LAR, is sparking controversy. Though autonomy might address some of the current downsides of how drones are used, they introduce new downsides policymakers are only just learning to grapple with
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Soon, Drones May Be Able to Make Lethal Decisions on Their Own    ...

Shades of the ancient Prisoner series on TV


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