Respect othernes, do not destroy it

About: nothingness and the illusion of opposites alan watts - youtube


Seeing the black create the white, does not make the black white.  Knowing the unity of you separate from me, does not make you me.  Feeling the up creating the down, should not stop the vibration.  I respect my otherness, i do not destroy it  ... Hallelujah !

Otherness is an attitude toward that which i am not.

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Seth says
ME 2013-09-01 10:57:55 16736
You can't destroy otherness without destroying your self!
Some attitudes are OK some like childishness & tantrums  are not.

Seth says
the Facebook dialogue on this is here.

Seth says
Well, Mark, picture this ... you are standing in front of closed door, you can hear people talking behind the door ... it is mysterious .... maybe its about you, maybe its about something that might interest you ... or maybe it something that is none of your business, something that you couldn't care less about.  you can't hear the  mumbles clearly ...  you cannot know what is happening behind the door.  it might be a huge ornate door with an immense facade ... or it might be a simple door to a shack ... or maybe just a curtain ... in any case you know beyond a single doubt that you cannot know from where you are.  Now you do what you will ... interested or not ... feel about behind the door just as you do feel  ... listen intently, knock, walk away ... make up stories .....  or piss on the doorstep.  Me, i am through struggling with you on the subject ... my attitude works for me ... like it or not, twist it to be absurd or not.  Quite possibly these droids are just not the droids you are looking for.

Seth says
Then too your graphic is in error!
The Eyeball is part of the Tao - not external to it!

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You are the part which is argument & fight sometimes & at others not so much - possibly agreeing , possibly not willfully ignorant, possibly so.


Seth says
Maybe this?
Via Facebook & Werner Erhard


Seth says
ME 2013-09-02 08:34:23 16736
Then too your graphic is in error!
The Eyeball is part of the Tao - not external to it!

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You are the part which is argument & fight sometimes & at others not so much - possibly agreeing , possibly not willfully ignorant, possibly so.



i did a little thought experiment ... just to see whether the eye belonged in the Tao as opposed to  an absurdity.  The eye, that symbol of awareness, seems better to me, the awareness of being within the being.  But even now, that might just be me, you may not appreciate the difference.

Seth says
seth 2013-09-03 06:50:05 16736
nice tits .... how do they feel?   I can feel unity, and i can even love your difference without needing to unify it away.   Both Nirvana and Otherness is being not obtained through intellectual mystic abstractions ... perhaps they are flip sides of each other ... i don't know, that would be just more of the same. 
     Otherness for otherness' sake is a waste of thought (for me) , but part of the Tao.
After all this conversation you have failed to communicate what is special from that thought, just expressed,  to anything useful. There is no destroying happening in my ideas already expressed. We do not destroy an apple, nor the idea of an apple, nor any of it's properties when we notice that it i part of a larger category called fruit & shares much more general attributes with other fruits.
     I prefer the Golden Rule to any moral (or code of behavior) you have made up here. Mostly because it is the only real law necessary & will get us out everything like wars the more we all adopt it.  Differences lead to war.  Human is the next level up where we grok each other & the whole human condition, rather than rest in our differences & jockey for position.
 

Seth says
nice tits .... how do they feel?   I can feel unity, and i can even love your difference without needing to unify it away.   Both Nirvana and Otherness is being not obtained through intellectual mystic abstractions ... perhaps they are flip sides of each other ... i don't know, that would be just more of the same. 

Seth says
ME 2013-09-02 12:14:48 16736
seth 2013-09-02 12:01:45 16736
ME 2013-09-02 11:27:41 16736
seth 2013-09-02 10:53:37 16736
seth 2013-09-02 10:39:19 16736
ME 2013-09-02 10:22:53 16736
That's OK - I'm sure you are outside of the TAO!
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/taote.htm <<-- maybe read!

well when i see contrast, i am not the contrast that i see ... the subject/object duality of our awareness seems  orthogonal to the Tao of existence/not existence.  now, of course, you can mush them together, see the one creating the other, the other reflected in the one.  but i like to cut things off at the first recursion and keep them simple.  i don't get any trust of feeling from such an exercise.   do you?

but, yeah, the subject/object ness of the duality of awareness is as much Tao as any other duality
The Tao is unity.


well seeing unity even in duality, doesn't make the duality disappear ... doesn't destroy it. 
So what? Nobody did that. That which is, IS!

Sometimes the duality goes:

Sometimes it is to be savored:


Seth says
ME 2013-09-02 11:27:41 16736
seth 2013-09-02 10:53:37 16736
seth 2013-09-02 10:39:19 16736
ME 2013-09-02 10:22:53 16736
That's OK - I'm sure you are outside of the TAO!
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/taote.htm <<-- maybe read!

well when i see contrast, i am not the contrast that i see ... the subject/object duality of our awareness seems  orthogonal to the Tao of existence/not existence.  now, of course, you can mush them together, see the one creating the other, the other reflected in the one.  but i like to cut things off at the first recursion and keep them simple.  i don't get any trust of feeling from such an exercise.   do you?

but, yeah, the subject/object ness of the duality of awareness is as much Tao as any other duality
The Tao is unity.


well seeing unity even in duality, doesn't make the duality disappear ... doesn't destroy it. 

Seth says

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