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i'm seriously thinking of changing my news orientation ... away from facebook to G+ ... away from memorandom  and mashable to digg ... away from CNN to AJAM.

digg is where i found this one ... shucks they didn't mention any mentography .

Incidentally it's interesting how the net changes.  Facebook, and Google are trying hard just like Yahoo did to own the exclusive territory of the web and keep people inside their domains.  Yet it remains that other domains, other sources, other places, other blogs are still where it happens.  Of late, i sense a bit of movement in the direction outside of those corrals.  May that always be!

Incidentally this item is about how items get selected for my attention.

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Seth says
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/great-divide-with-the-west/485728.html for the Russian point of view.


Seth says
seth 2013-09-25 11:38:03 16777
ME 2013-09-25 11:29:08 16777
Changing from liberal to conservative ? PML

from where did that mis-aprehension come?   Both liberal and conservative stances suck from my point of view ... pretty much same as it always was.  were i had been conservative, even or liberal, my choices listed above would have been quite different.  

Incidentally i like Digg primarily because it allows for user to select and escalate attention to stories ... unlike memorandom or drudge.   Would that broadcast media contrive that we navagate our attention to what we want to be important ... rather that being selected by the powers that be.
I don't see how changing your news aggregator & your social media hub will change that much in the way of news (the not old stuff in the past).  Of course if your interest goes off into some other direction unrelated to politics or food or social discourse then you've just changed your focus & may need new sources. Personally, if I want a cross section of people & worlds I am not likely to meet during a random walk in Paradise, I can go to YouTube which is fairly bizarre enough. Here is one of my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw


Seth says
ME 2013-09-25 11:29:08 16777
Changing from liberal to conservative ? PML

from where did that mis-aprehension come?   Both liberal and conservative stances suck from my point of view ... pretty much same as it always was.  were i had been conservative, even or liberal, my choices listed above would have been quite different.  

Incidentally i like Digg primarily because it allows for user to select and escalate attention to stories ... unlike memorandom or drudge.   Would that broadcast media contrive that we navagate our attention to what we want to be important ... rather that being selected by the powers that be.

Seth says
source: for some reason mark says
I don't see how changing your news aggregator & your social media hub will change that much in the way of news
Really?  For a month, turn on ALJAM whenever you would have turned on Fox, and then answer the question again.

Seth says
ME 2013-09-26 08:49:41 16777
seth 2013-09-26 07:21:36 16777
source: for some reason mark says
I don't see how changing your news aggregator & your social media hub will change that much in the way of news
Really?  For a month, turn on ALJAM whenever you would have turned on Fox, and then answer the question again.
I'm not likely to. For a month listen to maybe Rush Limbaugh or Eckert Tolle.  You just change the viewpoint - not the news.  Same shit is happening. Can't get away from the White House manipulating the M$M anyway.

no you actually do change which items come up and appear in your news when you switch channels.  listen to a different channel and you will start thinking about different things.  that is a fact.   channels select the news.  that should really not be a controversial thought here.  it is nothing new.  the only strange thing here is that you are not acknowledging it.

Seth says
ME 2013-09-26 11:04:49 16777
seth 2013-09-26 09:50:37 16777
ME 2013-09-26 08:49:41 16777
seth 2013-09-26 07:21:36 16777
source: for some reason mark says
I don't see how changing your news aggregator & your social media hub will change that much in the way of news
Really?  For a month, turn on ALJAM whenever you would have turned on Fox, and then answer the question again.
I'm not likely to. For a month listen to maybe Rush Limbaugh or Eckert Tolle.  You just change the viewpoint - not the news.  Same shit is happening. Can't get away from the White House manipulating the M$M anyway.

no you actually do change which items come up and appear in your news when you switch channels.  listen to a different channel and you will start thinking about different things.  that is a fact.   channels select the news.  that should really not be a controversial thought here.  it is nothing new.  the only strange thing here is that you are not acknowledging it.
NOPE! The only thing that changes is the point of view of the story writers.  The events stay the same. Of course if you are into donkey fucking maybe you will not notice the politics anymore.


well sure "the events stay the same" ... but the problem is your awareness of them.   you really don't understand relativity, do you? 


Seth says
seth 2013-09-27 12:29:28 16777
ME 2013-09-26 11:04:49 16777
seth 2013-09-26 09:50:37 16777
ME 2013-09-26 08:49:41 16777
seth 2013-09-26 07:21:36 16777
source: for some reason mark says
I don't see how changing your news aggregator & your social media hub will change that much in the way of news
Really?  For a month, turn on ALJAM whenever you would have turned on Fox, and then answer the question again.
I'm not likely to. For a month listen to maybe Rush Limbaugh or Eckert Tolle.  You just change the viewpoint - not the news.  Same shit is happening. Can't get away from the White House manipulating the M$M anyway.

no you actually do change which items come up and appear in your news when you switch channels.  listen to a different channel and you will start thinking about different things.  that is a fact.   channels select the news.  that should really not be a controversial thought here.  it is nothing new.  the only strange thing here is that you are not acknowledging it.
NOPE! The only thing that changes is the point of view of the story writers.  The events stay the same. Of course if you are into donkey fucking maybe you will not notice the politics anymore.

well sure "the events stay the same" ... but the problem is your awareness of them.   you really don't understand relativity, do you? 

You may still be stuck in the dilemma of whether if there is no observer does a tree falling in the forest make a noise or it's equivalent grand idea - if there is no observer did anything happen?
I am reading some of the most bizarre horse shit in The Yoga of Time Travel 
about relativity. I read most of Einstein's theory in one of the old man's books.  Nobody can travel at the speed of light yet.  But what is most interesting & incidentally gives job security to mathematicians & physicists, is not experimental.  That which has been achieved assuming results related to relativity are engineering accomplishments.  You can find out that an amount of U235 can be accumulated & will blow up & then assemble 2 sub-critical masses and explode them together & you get a bomb.  None of that nor the particle physics extrapolations prove relativity.  But then your sources will contradict mine & mine will fuck yours in the ..... etc.
Relativity in the real world is mostly a personal, self or political ruse to avoid the idea that one or the other of you might be wrong in an argument or disagreement.

Seth says

medium.com is another web tool that could work to help people choose their own news.

Seth says
source: mark above
I read most of Einstein's theory in one of the old man's books.  Nobody can travel at the speed of light yet.  But what is most interesting & incidentally gives job security to mathematicians & physicists, is not experimental.  That which has been achieved assuming results related to relativity are engineering accomplishments.  You can find out that an amount of U235 can be accumulated & will blow up & then assemble 2 sub-critical masses and explode them together & you get a bomb.  None of that nor the particle physics extrapolations prove relativity.
Give me a break!  One does not need to measure at the extremes of physics to understand or "prove relativity".  One merely observes that objects move only relative to each other.  There being no such thing measurable as a velocity of just one object.  20/miles an hour is meaningless ... unless it is assumed that it is relative to some other object.   So there is no such thing as an absolute velocity.  Err ... sans, of course, Einstein's conjecture about the speed of light.

Seth says
seth 2013-09-27 22:42:36 16777
source: mark above
I read most of Einstein's theory in one of the old man's books.  Nobody can travel at the speed of light yet.  But what is most interesting & incidentally gives job security to mathematicians & physicists, is not experimental.  That which has been achieved assuming results related to relativity are engineering accomplishments.  You can find out that an amount of U235 can be accumulated & will blow up & then assemble 2 sub-critical masses and explode them together & you get a bomb.  None of that nor the particle physics extrapolations prove relativity.
Give me a break!  One does not need to measure at the extremes of physics to understand or "prove relativity".  One merely observes that objects move only relative to each other.  There being no such thing measurable as a velocity of just one object.  20/miles an hour is meaningless ... unless it is assumed that it is relative to some other object.   So there is no such thing as an absolute velocity.  Err ... sans, of course, Einstein's conjecture about the speed of light.
If you believe all the bullshit that goes on with relativity then you do need a break.


Seth says
ME 2013-09-27 23:48:33 16777
seth 2013-09-27 22:42:36 16777
source: mark above
I read most of Einstein's theory in one of the old man's books.  Nobody can travel at the speed of light yet.  But what is most interesting & incidentally gives job security to mathematicians & physicists, is not experimental.  That which has been achieved assuming results related to relativity are engineering accomplishments.  You can find out that an amount of U235 can be accumulated & will blow up & then assemble 2 sub-critical masses and explode them together & you get a bomb.  None of that nor the particle physics extrapolations prove relativity.
Give me a break!  One does not need to measure at the extremes of physics to understand or "prove relativity".  One merely observes that objects move only relative to each other.  There being no such thing measurable as a velocity of just one object.  20/miles an hour is meaningless ... unless it is assumed that it is relative to some other object.   So there is no such thing as an absolute velocity.  Err ... sans, of course, Einstein's conjecture about the speed of light.
If you believe all the bullshit that goes on with relativity then you do need a break.


Well i don't know what "bullshit" you refer to ... and anyway me thinks that would be a distraction from the topic ... but what i wrote above about relativity is certainly true and is what is pertinent to this discussion.   Motion is relative.   That is the one single part of relativity  that is analogoous to relative truth ... or in the case of this item, relative awareness as given by your news aggregator

But ok, changing the topic ... Einstein's conjecture about the the speed of light being an upper limit was astounding to me!  Were you not astounded too? 

Seth says
ME 2013-09-29 09:39:08 16777
Motion is relative? Motion & time are abstractions of observable change. How you measure them is in comparison with standard things like atomic clocks & standard things.  At one time the length measurement foot was the size of a king's foot. The results of measurement is indeed dependent upon your yardstick, scale & clocks. The numbers are relative to what you measure them with, for sure.  Still, what you are measuring doesn't change just because you change your yardstick! Extrapolate that to Quantum stuff or truth & some people just get confused.

I have yet to hear a rational explanation of the speed of light being a limit.  If you put it in your fundamental equation: e = mc^2 & then assume it from there on as a fact I can see why, though. Why light? If  light makes sense as a limit then the square of light will never be observable & makes no intuitive sense. Did he just pull that one out of his ass?  I pull his theory book out every decade or so just as an amusement.  It really doesn't affect real life one way or another.

The things you mention in your first paragraph about motion are a distraction from what  i meant by emphasizing that motion is relative in this context.  Motion is relative not because of variations in the standard rulers against which we measure distance, but rather because it must be measured against some other moving frame of reference.  If i run along a platform waving at you on the train, i measure your motion relative to my motion, not your motion relative to the platform ... or perhaps relative to the surface of Venus.  The pertinent fact, in this context, is that the choice of frame of reference is completely up to us ... it is subjective ... there is no preferred frame of reference.

I don't think there is a "rational explanation of the speed of light being a limit".  That was kind of my whole point.  Einstein just made it an assumption in his formula.  Which, of course would have been ignored by history, except for the pesky fact that the forumla more accurately predicted events ... like for example where and when one of the moons of Jupiter appeared.  Yes he certainly did pull that one out of his ass ... that in and of itself is the surprising thing to me.

Yes certainly Einstein's formulas do not affect our daily lives ... we just are not in the professions on which they bear.  But the part of relativity that I emphasized does!  ... though it is such an integral part of our lives, that some of us just ignore it now ... and even ... err ... deny it.

Seth says
source: mark
If you are measuring in moving references you are just confused.  
... wiggy wobby woo ... there is no way to measure movement except in moving frames of reference.  Somebody is introducing confusions here ... i doubt that not.
source: mark continues
I doubt that e=mc^2 predicts when one of the moons of jupiter appear. 
i think e=mc^2 it is a consequence of the basic kinematic formulas of relative motion like this one ... see the history of special relativity  ... when one of Jupiter's moons appeared was in fact more accurately predicted by using those formulas.
source: mark continues
Relativity just allows you to be wishy-washy about what is being talked about - similar in quality to the hurry up required in confidence rackets like the Sting.
Believing in relative truth allows me to talk more honestly because then i must take into consideration that what i say is relative to my mind and what you say is relative to your mind.

Seth says
seth 2013-09-29 11:24:28 16777
source: mark
If you are measuring in moving references you are just confused.  
... wiggy wobby woo ... there is no way to measure movement except in moving frames of reference.  Somebody is introducing confusions here ... i doubt that not.
source: mark continues
I doubt that e=mc^2 predicts when one of the moons of jupiter appear. 
i think e=mc^2 it is a consequence of the basic kinematic formulas of relative motion like this one ... see the history of special relativity  ... when one of Jupiter's moons appeared was in fact more accurately predicted by using those formulas.
source: mark continues
Relativity just allows you to be wishy-washy about what is being talked about - similar in quality to the hurry up required in confidence rackets like the Sting.
Believing in relative truth allows me to talk more honestly because then i must take into consideration that what i say is relative to my mind and what you say is relative to your mind.
Yeah we got personal truths going on here - nothing I believe in nor can argue to you about since your truths are personal to you.

 Emperical resuls coinciding with a formula calculation are nice, particularly if the experiments are in many different contexts. Still does not prove the formula is accurate - it could be lucky.  But note that current climate change calculations don't coincide & yet the assertions are the same that their formulas & conclusions are accurate.

Seth says
ME 2013-09-29 11:42:29 16777
seth 2013-09-29 11:24:28 16777
source: mark
If you are measuring in moving references you are just confused.  
... wiggy wobby woo ... there is no way to measure movement except in moving frames of reference.  Somebody is introducing confusions here ... i doubt that not.
source: mark continues
I doubt that e=mc^2 predicts when one of the moons of jupiter appear. 
i think e=mc^2 it is a consequence of the basic kinematic formulas of relative motion like this one ... see the history of special relativity  ... when one of Jupiter's moons appeared was in fact more accurately predicted by using those formulas.
source: mark continues
Relativity just allows you to be wishy-washy about what is being talked about - similar in quality to the hurry up required in confidence rackets like the Sting.
Believing in relative truth allows me to talk more honestly because then i must take into consideration that what i say is relative to my mind and what you say is relative to your mind.
Yeah we got personal truths going on here - nothing I believe in nor can argue to you about since your truths are personal to you.

 Emperical resuls coinciding with a formula calculation are nice, particularly if the experiments are in many different contexts. Still does not prove the formula is accurate - it could be lucky.  But note that current climate change calculations don't coincide & yet the assertions are the same that their formulas & conclusions are accurate.

Well to both of your observations my reaction must be the same ... that is, quite literally, "ALL WE HAVE".   Perhaps that is not the perdicament you wish to accept.  But in personal communications all we have are, what you call, "personal truths".  In science all we have are our changing models.   There is no such thing as an "accurate formula" except how well it predicts events.  Yet the importance of that fact seems to me to be the very thing you deny.

Seth says
ME 2013-09-29 14:19:05 16777
seth 2013-09-29 14:17:33 16777
ME 2013-09-29 14:01:51 16777
Mathematics.

Mathematics is all in the meta-world ... its truths are true by their necessity ... but their *bindings* with the real world are purely by the coincidences of our subjective selection.   Mathematics is hardly a contradiction to my assertion that "all we have are  changing models" in science or "all we have are out personal truths" when it comes to our human communication. 
meta-world exists where?

i don't think it has a location in any practical sense of the word.  it seems to flame from our minds into our culture.

Seth says
ME 2013-09-29 12:40:23 16777
seth 2013-09-29 12:21:19 16777
ME 2013-09-29 11:42:29 16777
seth 2013-09-29 11:24:28 16777
source: mark
If you are measuring in moving references you are just confused.  
... wiggy wobby woo ... there is no way to measure movement except in moving frames of reference.  Somebody is introducing confusions here ... i doubt that not.
source: mark continues
I doubt that e=mc^2 predicts when one of the moons of jupiter appear. 
i think e=mc^2 it is a consequence of the basic kinematic formulas of relative motion like this one ... see the history of special relativity  ... when one of Jupiter's moons appeared was in fact more accurately predicted by using those formulas.
source: mark continues
Relativity just allows you to be wishy-washy about what is being talked about - similar in quality to the hurry up required in confidence rackets like the Sting.
Believing in relative truth allows me to talk more honestly because then i must take into consideration that what i say is relative to my mind and what you say is relative to your mind.
Yeah we got personal truths going on here - nothing I believe in nor can argue to you about since your truths are personal to you.

 Emperical resuls coinciding with a formula calculation are nice, particularly if the experiments are in many different contexts. Still does not prove the formula is accurate - it could be lucky.  But note that current climate change calculations don't coincide & yet the assertions are the same that their formulas & conclusions are accurate.

Well to both of your observations my reaction must be the same ... that is, quite literally, "ALL WE HAVE".   Perhaps that is not the perdicament you wish to accept.  But in personal communications all we have are, what you call, "personal truths".  In science all we have are our changing models.   There is no such thing as an "accurate formula" except how well it predicts events.  Yet the importance of that fact seems to me to be the very thing you deny.
I don't mind facts when there are some. Interpretations, conclusions, predictions that fail in the case of so-called climate science - those are the things that I relegate to the turd pile. I suggest that we do in fact have more.  Some mathematics is quite objective.  Some of modern quantum mathematics is fantasy, though.


Well when you find the "more" by all means please articulate it for it would be starteling indeed!

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