While my dog took a piss on a walk Yesterday

I discovered where in the Tao of Being free will is irrelevant or moot.

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Seth says

Context was how I was applying the Golden Rule to the Dog (Shadow) as I moved her along the pissing & shitting route. She had no real free will to pursue where her nose would have her go. I hold the Golden Rule as a principle all the way up the hierarchies & down the hierarchies to animals & plants including everything that IS & beyond.
The Tao is another.
Although this is not it, it is a picture that goes in the direction got from google nested tao - IT was/is an intuitive moment that everything as a whole hierarchy of Tao being IS in there inclusive of all time, being & meaning & therefore it is moot what I do as a member of a hierarchy of being of being of Beings of BEINGS all as of BEING.

Seth says

seth 2013-10-14 08:11:31 16814

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i wonder if nested tao can be related to spreading fractals

YES

- my other model was an n-dimensional fractal of the tao.

Seth says

seth 2013-10-12 16:38:55 16814

ME 2013-10-12 14:09:57 16814

seth 2013-10-12 13:26:51 16814

ME 2013-10-12 12:32:36 16814

seth 2013-10-12 11:56:08 16814

Can you describe the experience?

It is not an intellectual argument.

doesn't need to be an intellectual argument to be describe/represented here. many things that get described here are not intellectual arguments. language can be used to convey all kinds of things.

Some things can't be described in a way which works e.g. Seth's "I"

kind of unrelated, but definitely elucidated by your comment: i just noticed something embedded in your term 'Seth's "I" ' which i need to tease out. i don't think i could honestly describe something called my "I" or for that matter say anything about it. but i can quite easily describe myself and say quite a lot about me. i always find it strange just how very many assumptions are embedded in these words of our language and how we string them together.

Well Seth, I spent about 6 days contemplating "Who am I?" & when I answered the question & went up to the front of the room to talk with master Peter Ralston about all I could say was "I know who I am" & he accepted that. Most who went up were sent back because they tried to talk about it rather from out of who they are .

Seth says

ME 2013-10-14 09:52:39 16814

here is a 2 dimensional metaphor:
http://cinderella.de/files/HTMLDemos/7S04_Sunflower.html
made by the cinderella projective geometry software.

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very kewl

Mark de LA says

ME 2013-10-13 06:53:59 16814

This is similar to a Pappus Chain only different.

While my dog took a piss on a walk Yesterday

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