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Brother IS watching you.



that was linked from the InfoWars site.

Apparently this may well be a tracking system for police to use to enforce laws and civil decorum in down town Seattle. Is this a radical step infringing on deserved privacy of people in a public space, or merely a more efficient way to track people's movements in public when there is a emergency like the Boston Bomings? Certainly that is a judgement call. What needs of a fair witness here?

“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”―
Benjamin Franklin ...
& ... this article maybe sums up the dichotomy of privacy & security.

Who authorized what was done? What is the purpose? Did you vote for it? Can you find out or is it all secret? It all depends upon who does what with the information ... see the top of the item in blue. Is it statutory or is it some bureaucrat who wants more control or spend the money for his crony purposes? Trace the money & find out the politics. Quite a few people got upset over Snowden's disclosing classified information about the NSA spy-job. Can/does the NSA have & collect the information from these portals?
My sadness is that in the name of security we are beginning to resemble a police state in the name of security.... ever since 9/11/2001 ... Fear of being sick, blown up, broke & perhaps hungry with lack of jobs seems to drive all kinds things in the name of security. Even fear of the Earth being harmed by humans is causing the UN to ponder a global tax on carbon - an element of which we, ourselves are made of and exhale.


the think about a smart phone is that the applications you put on it are put there volentarialy. for example, i always let my applications have access to my GPS location ... but that is just me, i like the convience of the geo location stamped on my photos or a map as to where i have been. but if i wanted to rob a bank or murder sombody, i would leave my smart phone at home. thing is this new tech is a double sided sword ... on the one hand it enhances my right to be public ... on the other it threatens my privacy. but as long as it leaves those choice to me, i like it.






google glassess are just a camera ... and light does not travel through the solid walls that construct a private space. snooping into private spaces with extraudanary technology is invasion of privacy, pure and simple .... but that has nothing to do with google glasses. google glassess is just a more convenient camera.

what does the akashic records have to do with this item?

ok so the movie was about a world with no private space ... not a world i would choose ... and a not, i think, a world that we are evolving into. in our world, out private spaces are evolving along with our public ones.














the think about a smart phone is that the applications you put on it are put there volentarialy. for example, i always let my applications have access to my GPS location ... but that is just me, i like the convience of the geo location stamped on my photos or a map as to where i have been. but if i wanted to rob a bank or murder sombody, i would leave my smart phone at home. thing is this new tech is a double sided sword ... on the one hand it enhances my right to be public ... on the other it threatens my privacy. but as long as it leaves those choice to me, i like it.

yep it is well known that there are ways to track the phone itself, exclusive of the app choices. still in all it is my choice to have it on my person or not. the devise enhances my ability to be public at the expense of a choice to be private. that is being acknowledged here.


the think about a smart phone is that the applications you put on it are put there volentarialy. for example, i always let my applications have access to my GPS location ... but that is just me, i like the convience of the geo location stamped on my photos or a map as to where i have been. but if i wanted to rob a bank or murder sombody, i would leave my smart phone at home. thing is this new tech is a double sided sword ... on the one hand it enhances my right to be public ... on the other it threatens my privacy. but as long as it leaves those choice to me, i like it.

yep it is well known that there are ways to track the phone itself, exclusive of the app choices. still in all it is my choice to have it on my person or not. the devise enhances my ability to be public at the expense of a choice to be private. that is being acknowledged here.

well i really do separate my public/private changes from what our government is doing. to me, the government is quite "over-there" and does not intrude enough in my life to even get close to competing with my own personal agenda to interact in public or to keep my secret lives.
but as to the government, i think we are in agreement, it should be transparent as to its own actions, and it should not intrude on our private spaces.



the think about a smart phone is that the applications you put on it are put there volentarialy. for example, i always let my applications have access to my GPS location ... but that is just me, i like the convience of the geo location stamped on my photos or a map as to where i have been. but if i wanted to rob a bank or murder sombody, i would leave my smart phone at home. thing is this new tech is a double sided sword ... on the one hand it enhances my right to be public ... on the other it threatens my privacy. but as long as it leaves those choice to me, i like it.

yep it is well known that there are ways to track the phone itself, exclusive of the app choices. still in all it is my choice to have it on my person or not. the devise enhances my ability to be public at the expense of a choice to be private. that is being acknowledged here.

well i really do separate my public/private changes from what our government is doing. to me, the government is quite "over-there" and does not intrude enough in my life to even get close to competing with my own personal agenda to interact in public or to keep my secret lives.
but as to the government, i think we are in agreement, it should be transparent as to its own actions, and it should not intrude on our private spaces.


well your, perhaps unfounded, "paranoia" is perhaps your personal daemon ... to me, it is quite otherness. of course we need to be vigilant and not let that kind of totalarian world emerge ... there are lots and lots of americans who agree with us there. but me, i'm more worried (paranoic) of it happening by default from another direction ... not by the so called "government" ... but by commercial media domination of our psychology. but then, you won't look at that ... why? ... well as far as i can tell, that is not one of the conservitive talking points ... rather it comes from what you would think of as the other side ... you know, the one in your mind that you have tagged evil.

the think about a smart phone is that the applications you put on it are put there volentarialy. for example, i always let my applications have access to my GPS location ... but that is just me, i like the convience of the geo location stamped on my photos or a map as to where i have been. but if i wanted to rob a bank or murder sombody, i would leave my smart phone at home. thing is this new tech is a double sided sword ... on the one hand it enhances my right to be public ... on the other it threatens my privacy. but as long as it leaves those choice to me, i like it.

yep it is well known that there are ways to track the phone itself, exclusive of the app choices. still in all it is my choice to have it on my person or not. the devise enhances my ability to be public at the expense of a choice to be private. that is being acknowledged here.

well i really do separate my public/private changes from what our government is doing. to me, the government is quite "over-there" and does not intrude enough in my life to even get close to competing with my own personal agenda to interact in public or to keep my secret lives.
but as to the government, i think we are in agreement, it should be transparent as to its own actions, and it should not intrude on our private spaces.


well your, perhaps unfounded, "paranoia" is perhaps your personal daemon ... to me, it is quite otherness. of course we need to be vigilant and not let that kind of totalarian world emerge ... there are lots and lots of americans who agree with us there. but me, i'm more worried (paranoic) of it happening by default from another direction ... not by the so called "government" ... but by commercial media domination of our psychology. but then, you won't look at that ... why? ... well as far as i can tell, that is not one of the conservitive talking points ... rather it comes from what you would think of as the other side ... you know, the one in your mind that you have tagged evil.
Well then i don't understand why you are not just as very afraid of the commercial-media-domination of our psychology as you are afraid of the a government which would dominate it. But you always fight the latter and po-po the former ... er, so do the rest of the conservatives.







watever, this to me is just irritating magor being mystical ... have fun with your "


On another front on SPYING
You give the government information and it will be abused. It is not a matter of if it’ll be abused, it’s only a matter of when…
When the line between the personal self and the public self… when that line is determined by the government that keeps your information in a trove for release any time they need it, how are you free?
..the bottom line is, having worked inside the government, it will be abused. It is only a matter of time.
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If you’re not doing something wrong? The question is only whether your private wrongs that have no effect on anyone else become exposed for the government’s benefit.
…It’s only a matter of time before someone slaps an email on your desk from fifteen years ago… and says ‘look what we got against you.’
Remember, when the key is held by someone else liberty means absolutely nothing. That personal and private self are being evaporated.

good, catch

i suppose one could even say that to be inversely related does not always mean just more/less or increase/decrease ... perhaps there are other inverse changes too that could not be represented by those linguistic terms ... but i haven't conceived of any examples, have you? even the rwg, or any other zero sum game, means the more i win the less you do.

In recent months, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon have been quietly waging a campaign to stop the State Department from allowing Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, to build about half a dozen of these structures, known as monitor stations, on United States soil, several American officials said.
They fear that these structures could help Russia spy on the United States and improve the precision of Russian weaponry, the officials said. These monitor stations, the Russians contend, would significantly improve the accuracy and reliability of Moscow’s version of the Global Positioning System, the American satellite network that steers guided missiles to their targets and thirsty smartphone users to the nearest Starbucks.


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WASHINGTON — When President Obama travels abroad, his staff packs briefing books, gifts for foreign leaders and something more closely associated with camping than diplomacy: a tent.
Doug Mills/The New York Times
President Obama stowed his BlackBerry, which is specially encrypted, while stepping off Marine One on Friday.
Even when Mr. Obama travels to allied nations, aides quickly set up the security tent — which has opaque sides and noise-making devices inside — in a room near his hotel suite. When the president needs to read a classified document or have a sensitive conversation, he ducks into the tent to shield himself from secret video cameras and listening devices.


to this?

Thing is this may or may not be what is being implied here. My first instinct is that it is not. It might rather be just boxes installed by a company who is trying to supply WiFi to Seattle ... a much needed service indeed.



to this?

Thing is this may or may not be what is being implied here. My first instinct is that it is not. It might rather be just boxes installed by a company who is trying to supply WiFi to Seattle ... a much needed service indeed.

Well i can take a look at these. But most of the information is almost certainly already on the net and even you should be able to find and post it. That would help with my research.


to this?

Thing is this may or may not be what is being implied here. My first instinct is that it is not. It might rather be just boxes installed by a company who is trying to supply WiFi to Seattle ... a much needed service indeed.

Well i can take a look at these. But most of the information is almost certainly already on the net and even you should be able to find and post it. That would help with my research.


Tattoos anyone? Convenience & fad are almost as good as an embedded tracker & ID. My dog has one for my convenience & was required by the Humane Society where I got her.




Incidentally getting locations and pictures, even a close up showing the markings, is perhaps the easy part of the research. Determining who placed them there and their function is the hard part. Projects as large as the InfoWars story implies will, me thinks, leave quite a vivid trail on the Internet quite apart from any hype.
A lot of the information I asked for is in this:

WASHINGTON — U.S. agencies collected and shared the personal information of thousands of Americans in an attempt to root out untrustworthy federal workers that ended up scrutinizing people who had no direct ties to the U.S. government and simply had purchased certain books.
Federal officials gathered the information from the customer records of two men who were under criminal investigation for purportedly teaching people how to pass lie detector tests. The officials then distributed a list of 4,904 people – along with many of their Social Security numbers, addresses and professions – to nearly 30 federal agencies, including the Internal Revenue Service, the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Food and Drug Administration.
Will they be scrubbed after POTUS leaves?

It's interesting to note that a free WiFi network would have the same capabilities to track people. It would be nice to have free WiFi wherever i go in downtown Seattle ... i would use such a system myself ... and i would not care i was visible to law enforcement. i rather expect that will actually happen relatively soon in Seattle. Free WiFi everywhere would be even better.


I declare a right to anonmity is subsumed within the 4th amendment.
My right to privacy is just as valid as your right to seek fame!


Sheriffs in Richland County, South Carolina are currently defending the use of a controversial investigation method that grants them access to thousands of cell phone user’s data.
The technique, known as a “Tower Dump,” allows law enforcement to request all call, text and data transmissions from any specific time period from a cell tower’s provider. Search warrants obtained by WLTX News uncovered Richland County Sheriffs use of the technique during several cases including a 2011 vehicle break-in outside a sheriff’s home.
Although police must obtain and present a search warrant to cell providers in order to access the data, the amount of information gathered, especially on those not suspected of a crime, presents a clear constitutional violation.


Sheriffs in Richland County, South Carolina are currently defending the use of a controversial investigation method that grants them access to thousands of cell phone user’s data.
The technique, known as a “Tower Dump,” allows law enforcement to request all call, text and data transmissions from any specific time period from a cell tower’s provider. Search warrants obtained by WLTX News uncovered Richland County Sheriffs use of the technique during several cases including a 2011 vehicle break-in outside a sheriff’s home.
Although police must obtain and present a search warrant to cell providers in order to access the data, the amount of information gathered, especially on those not suspected of a crime, presents a clear constitutional violation.


Well i see no "clear constitutional violation". Perhaps there is one, me i don't know ... i will await a Spureme court ruling to believe that one way or the other. But in any case i think Infowar's assertion of that being "clear" is a overreach and just their partisan opinion.
This is an entirely different world than the one when the US Constitution was agreed upon ... and especially so when it comes to what can be seen and heard by whom and what. I think we need new legislation or rulings which reflect today' reality as just what and where and who can rely on a constitutional expectation of privacy.


A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency program which collects information on nearly all telephone calls made to, from or within the United States is likely unconstitutional.
U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon found that the program appears to violate the Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. He also said the Justice Department had failed to demonstrate that collecting the information had helped to head off terrorist attacks.
Continue ReadingActing on a lawsuit brought by conservative legal activist Larry Klayman, Leon issued a preliminary injunction barring the NSA from collecting so-called metadata pertaining to the Verizon accounts of Klayman and one of his clients. However, the judge stayed the order to allow for an appeal.

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