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MeE says
seth 2014-01-01 12:03:33 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 00:31:41 16998

well there is that ... but i don't think it is the same thing.  to me i get more of a fight club from spiitualism vs materialism.  i even remember the first time i enountered this in the literatere ... it was in a Henry Miller novel ... sorry i'll try to find it later if you care ... it really was well written.  the essence is that thought history spirit has been there buggering matter ... funny shit .
I like PR's interpretation of the Skeptics finally solved the epistemology problem - the duality of spirit vs matter by inventing science as merely experimental knowledge. Go find it - i've pointed at it many times.


Seth says
MeE 2014-01-01 00:31:41 16998

well there is that ... but i don't think it is the same thing.  to me i get more of a fight club from spiitualism vs materialism.  i even remember the first time i enountered this in the literatere ... it was in a Henry Miller novel ... sorry i'll try to find it later if you care ... it really was well written.  the essence is that thought history spirit has been there buggering matter ... funny shit .

MeE says
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


Seth says
MeE 2014-01-01 12:33:50 16998
seth 2014-01-01 12:03:33 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 00:31:41 16998

well there is that ... but i don't think it is the same thing.  to me i get more of a fight club from spiitualism vs materialism.  i even remember the first time i enountered this in the literatere ... it was in a Henry Miller novel ... sorry i'll try to find it later if you care ... it really was well written.  the essence is that thought history spirit has been there buggering matter ... funny shit .
I like PR's interpretation of the Skeptics finally solved the epistemology problem - the duality of spirit vs matter by inventing science as merely experimental knowledge. Go find it - i've pointed at it many times.


well  if you actually intend to communicate, then give me the page in Bonk, i'm not playing that game.  the only profit there would be to your lower ego, lower case ... me thinks that just gets in our way here. 

i mean i don't even recognize a ("the") epistemology problem of the duality of spirit and matter ... maybe that is what PR is saying, but i guess we might never know.  our problem here with spirit is that we cannot talk about it in our language ... you said that yourself ... we seem just to be able to talk around it like this picture



Seth says
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.

MeE says
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
I basically don't give a shit enough that you are missing something here; your made-up mind notwithstandinbg. Google it or not. In my Kindle all I have to do is search for skeptic. Bozo the pedant arising.

MeE says
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
doesn't work for me; your misunderstanding the duality yet.

MeE says
seth 2014-01-01 14:42:18 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 13:41:32 16998
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
doesn't work for me; your misunderstanding the duality yet.

people use this word, "duality" to refer to many things.  the usage of your particular G+ quote is the one i have found the solution to in my mind.  it may or may not work for you in your mind ... the interesting topic here for me would be why that works over here and not over there for the purpose at hand.  but of course we will never get to that ... why ... well just because we need to deal with ... er, my misunderstanding first, and ... er ... your implicit total comprehension of same.  oh shucks.
mind reading still failing miserable, but who gives a shit anyway?  I took the quote from G+ & found it fit my interpretation - not a total & complete fit however.


Seth says
MeE 2014-01-01 13:41:32 16998
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
doesn't work for me; your misunderstanding the duality yet.

people use this word, "duality" to refer to many things.  the usage of your particular G+ quote is the one i have found the solution to in my mind.  it may or may not work for you in your mind ... the interesting topic here for me would be why that works over here and not over there for the purpose at hand.  but of course we will never get to that ... why ... well just because we need to deal with ... er, my misunderstanding first, and ... er ... your implicit total comprehension of same.  oh shucks.

Seth says
MeE 2014-01-01 15:03:07 16998
seth 2014-01-01 14:42:18 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 13:41:32 16998
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
doesn't work for me; your misunderstanding the duality yet.

people use this word, "duality" to refer to many things.  the usage of your particular G+ quote is the one i have found the solution to in my mind.  it may or may not work for you in your mind ... the interesting topic here for me would be why that works over here and not over there for the purpose at hand.  but of course we will never get to that ... why ... well just because we need to deal with ... er, my misunderstanding first, and ... er ... your implicit total comprehension of same.  oh shucks.
mind reading still failing miserable, but who gives a shit anyway?  I took the quote from G+ & found it fit my interpretation - not a total & complete fit however.


fine ... so why doesn't my solution work over there?

MeE says
seth 2014-01-01 22:47:42 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 15:03:07 16998
seth 2014-01-01 14:42:18 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 13:41:32 16998
seth 2014-01-01 13:14:48 16998
MeE 2014-01-01 12:54:32 16998
The duality summarized on G+
G+ : ... Despite decades of research, no detailed explanation yet exists of how the interplay of electrical and chemical activity between cells becomes the music I hear in my mind’s ear. No scientific model describes how a few simple notes elicit such emotion, nor how I might protect those feelings from dementia’s ravages decades hence.
...


incidentally this particular "duality problem" i have solved to my satisfaction myself .   it goes like this ... you must be something to feel what it is like from the inside ... therefore do not look for any explanation, except of that one, for why it appears different from the outside.
doesn't work for me; your misunderstanding the duality yet.

people use this word, "duality" to refer to many things.  the usage of your particular G+ quote is the one i have found the solution to in my mind.  it may or may not work for you in your mind ... the interesting topic here for me would be why that works over here and not over there for the purpose at hand.  but of course we will never get to that ... why ... well just because we need to deal with ... er, my misunderstanding first, and ... er ... your implicit total comprehension of same.  oh shucks.
mind reading still failing miserable, but who gives a shit anyway?  I took the quote from G+ & found it fit my interpretation - not a total & complete fit however.


fine ... so why doesn't my solution work over there?
It just doesn't work in Argumentativeville.

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