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Seth says
source: mark
Separating the thought, feeling & will components of life & then recombining them so that the I can initiate something is fascinating. We have occult methodology. The usecases might be interesting to achieve & analyze & test.
... i too am fascinated by how my thoughts, feelings, and actions balance and feed and feed back to those happening outside of me causing this life of mine to work ... or in some cases not work.

Usecases would be helpful ... do you have any?

Mark de LA says
  • How does life work? Life as in "this is my life".
  • The Tao is a good example of what wisdom might be as in the RS sense of wisdom implanted in the Universe by the gods.
  • I am so different that I was being at 21 - different thoughts & mind entirely!
  • Separating the thought, feeling & will components of life & then recombining them so that the I can initiate something is fascinating. We have occult methodology. The usecases might be interesting to achieve & analyze & test.



Mark de LA says
seth 2014-03-04 08:05:37 17139
source: mark
Separating the thought, feeling & will components of life & then recombining them so that the I can initiate something is fascinating. We have occult methodology. The usecases might be interesting to achieve & analyze & test.
... i too am fascinated by how my thoughts, feelings, and actions balance and feed and feed back to those happening outside of me causing this life of mine to work ... or in some cases not work.

Usecases would be helpful ... do you have any?
Nope - just anchored these ideas which showed up in my morning silence contemplation texture aftermath here. Got some of your own?


Seth says
some analysis might be in order ...

frequently we think of the sequence of change being: thought -> feeling -> will/action (loa?)
or perhaps: thought -> will/caction -> feeling  (rational)
others and other times as:  feeling -> will/action -> thought (rationalizing)

rarely do we cop to: action/will -> feeling -> thought (zen?)

integrating those sequences with what happens in the world would make those more practical ... and of course including the other 2 sequnces.

i know you have a take on this but that item escapes me at the moment.  I think the thing to realize is that it does not always take place the same way and not the same way for everybody.  which way works the best and for whom, and who judges that value, may just be part of the strength in our human diversity.

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-03-04 09:23:45 17139
Einai 2014-03-04 09:05:54 17139
2014-03-04 09:02:33 17139
Well, then, let the holy God of diversity grasp your soul & produce something. Why bother with an Ego anyway?
maybe? maybe not?

well when it comes to myself, (er my ego), that is my responsibility and what i do ... oh sure there is even diversity in me ... but it is my tendency to try to harmonize that.  so this diversity God, as you put it, organizes mostly what is not me ... er, my otherness ... not something for me to go "let the holy thing grasp me and produce something" about, one way or the other.
but, of course, you jest there .

but we need to deal with habit here:  {seth mentions diversity -> mark scoffs at diversity}. 

Is this, perchance, a usecase to examine? ... analyze to thought/feeling/action inside and outside, you and me?
Actually, the diversity word points at what is a larger part of this item - namely what controls the event. If one does not choose or lets the Universe do it (It's God's will that ...) then the question of how does life work (With the corollary of Who am I? in the scheme of things) makes one's life moot. At some point choices & judgements are made : thought, feeling engage.  Do we have access to Wisdom?


Mark de LA says
As an aside - the sense of language embodies the being of the different parts of speech. (8 or 12?)


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-03-04 09:31:22 17139
incidentally i don't think we can deny the diversity here.  there are 6 ways for the sequence to happen.  it does not happen the same way every time for everybody.  Hence what happens is diverse,  like it or not with your own feelings.

Let me know if those are not true sentences even to you, please? 
You have confused diversity with permutation.


Seth says
Einai 2014-03-04 09:31:39 17139
seth 2014-03-04 09:23:45 17139
Einai 2014-03-04 09:05:54 17139
2014-03-04 09:02:33 17139
Well, then, let the holy God of diversity grasp your soul & produce something. Why bother with an Ego anyway?
maybe? maybe not?

well when it comes to myself, (er my ego), that is my responsibility and what i do ... oh sure there is even diversity in me ... but it is my tendency to try to harmonize that.  so this diversity God, as you put it, organizes mostly what is not me ... er, my otherness ... not something for me to go "let the holy thing grasp me and produce something" about, one way or the other.
but, of course, you jest there .

but we need to deal with habit here:  {seth mentions diversity -> mark scoffs at diversity}. 

Is this, perchance, a usecase to examine? ... analyze to thought/feeling/action inside and outside, you and me?
Actually, the diversity word points at what is a larger part of this item - namely what controls the event. If one does not choose or lets the Universe do it (It's God's will that ...) then the question of how does life work (With the corollary of Who am I? in the scheme of things) makes one's life moot. At some point choices & judgements are made : thought, feeling engage.  Do we have access to Wisdom?

well yes, i feel we are getting closer to it.

Me, i cannot distinguish between God's will and Diversity.  Sorry they just don't pay me the big bucks for that kind of judgement ... lol.  I guess i might be saying here that God's will looks like Diversity to me ... or at least what i am privileged to see of it.    What controls the event is certainly a combination of forces ... my own courage, i claim is involved.  I suppose, sans that belief, i would need to consider my own life in fact "moot".   But, strangely enought, i do not .

Mark de LA says
Moving on to my parts of speech idea (for my amusement anyway) the cube maps some of that as does the Otz Chiim


Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-03-04 10:01:29 17139
Consider how one's consciousness changes when speaking or focusing on a different one of the parts of speech : a noun, verb, adverb, adjective & expecially the prepositions.
Also consider the 17138 while doing so.

I have actually caught myself recently so focused on something else in my mind while cooking or cleaning up the kitchen noticed the preposition IN & began to move to a cupboard or a drawer  with just the idea that I wanted to get something or put something IN something without necessarily noticing within what. After a couple of attempts I usually remembered in what or what I wanted to get IN the drawer.


Seth says
Einai 2014-03-04 10:30:39 17139
Einai 2014-03-04 10:01:29 17139
Consider how one's consciousness changes when speaking or focusing on a different one of the parts of speech : a noun, verb, adverb, adjective & expecially the prepositions.
Also consider the 17138 while doing so.

I have actually caught myself recently so focused on something else in my mind while cooking or cleaning up the kitchen noticed the preposition IN & began to move to a cupboard or a drawer  with just the idea that I wanted to get something or put something IN something without necessarily noticing within what. After a couple of attempts I usually remembered in what or what I wanted to get IN the drawer.


Mark de LA says
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajnaparamita


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