The 7% ers - Words Are a Waste of Time
I am losing faith in words. They are reputed to be only 7% of verbal communication anyway - even if they coexist with or are kind to the truth.
What is fascinating with a similar medium in the Arts are songs & music. The performance art is not intended to be precise but instead pass along an emotional content which each listener experiences for himself with his own interpretation within his own life. A good many of them are about love. A song rarely means exactly anything. Words only pretend now to represent anything of the sort.
The power of the word has already sung its goodbye ode.
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What is fascinating with a similar medium in the Arts are songs & music. The performance art is not intended to be precise but instead pass along an emotional content which each listener experiences for himself with his own interpretation within his own life. A good many of them are about love. A song rarely means exactly anything. Words only pretend now to represent anything of the sort.
The power of the word has already sung its goodbye ode.


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- listening
Comments
Mark de LA says
seth 2014-04-25 05:45:19 17318
source: mark
The rest of the comment is about you.
The rest of the comment is about you.
... yep, most of it. Several of my sentences were about you or about us.
Translated meaning for Bozo - no abstract or independent truth was so contained & definitely off-topic!


Mark de LA says
Thanks for sharing.

Seth says
wow ... that is great news in fact
. How about taste ... is is coming back?
I'm still eating too much, but my kitchen habits are getting better and better. It is a place for me where my thoughts, feelings, and actions harmonize ... well a lot of the time. I'm workin well with my wife and in my community ... though the community stuff is still so very dynamic. It is quite a thing living differently than the standardized social habits dictate ... a tickelish balance indeed. I'm thinking seriously of starting a pumpkin patch in the back yard ... and then having a big community canning festival in the fall ... not just a little amount of courage is requisite there. i need energy and labor for that. Oh, shucks ... too many words
... i said too much.
Einai 2014-04-24 09:07:59 17318
seth 2014-04-24 09:04:32 17318
Actually i have been feeling great lately ... especially mentally, thanks for asking
. I could go into more details if you wish, but i know you are loosing confidence in words lately, so i won't throw any more on the fire to aggravate you. How is your throat problem changing ... are you healing well?
Einai 2014-04-24 08:52:11 17318
seth 2014-04-24 08:07:17 17318
we is a great word to use ... i'm sorry you suddenly seem to have lost the knack for saying and hearing it. i've tried to share my thoughts with you ... you ignore them ... oh well. How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your health.
Einai 2014-04-24 07:36:10 17318
seth 2014-04-24 07:16:08 17318
words are just what we use to share our thoughts. have you lost faith in sharing thoughts?
that's a birdie
you try to share your thoughts with them
how often do you succeed
obviously I failed here
a picture is worth a thousand words - maybe
sometimes pictures lie too
especially with photoshop around

you try to share your thoughts with them
how often do you succeed
obviously I failed here
a picture is worth a thousand words - maybe
sometimes pictures lie too
especially with photoshop around

we is a great word to use ... i'm sorry you suddenly seem to have lost the knack for saying and hearing it. i've tried to share my thoughts with you ... you ignore them ... oh well. How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your health.
WE is a nice word as all words are nice words until you put them together with others conveying all sorts of mischief.
For example, try this on which is in accord with your own sentence above:
For example, try this on which is in accord with your own sentence above:
Mark paraphrasing Seth to Seth: ... How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your mental health.
...

Actually i have been feeling great lately ... especially mentally, thanks for asking

Actually I am better than ever -no throat problem at all !!! I lost about 100 pounds & am exploring Zen Body Being at a new level of ability. Thanks for asking! (If you really did?)




I'm still eating too much, but my kitchen habits are getting better and better. It is a place for me where my thoughts, feelings, and actions harmonize ... well a lot of the time. I'm workin well with my wife and in my community ... though the community stuff is still so very dynamic. It is quite a thing living differently than the standardized social habits dictate ... a tickelish balance indeed. I'm thinking seriously of starting a pumpkin patch in the back yard ... and then having a big community canning festival in the fall ... not just a little amount of courage is requisite there. i need energy and labor for that. Oh, shucks ... too many words

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-04-24 09:04:32 17318
Actually i have been feeling great lately ... especially mentally, thanks for asking
. I could go into more details if you wish, but i know you are loosing confidence in words lately, so i won't throw any more on the fire to aggravate you. How is your throat problem changing ... are you healing well?
Einai 2014-04-24 08:52:11 17318
seth 2014-04-24 08:07:17 17318
we is a great word to use ... i'm sorry you suddenly seem to have lost the knack for saying and hearing it. i've tried to share my thoughts with you ... you ignore them ... oh well. How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your health.
Einai 2014-04-24 07:36:10 17318
seth 2014-04-24 07:16:08 17318
words are just what we use to share our thoughts. have you lost faith in sharing thoughts?
that's a birdie
you try to share your thoughts with them
how often do you succeed
obviously I failed here
a picture is worth a thousand words - maybe
sometimes pictures lie too
especially with photoshop around

you try to share your thoughts with them
how often do you succeed
obviously I failed here
a picture is worth a thousand words - maybe
sometimes pictures lie too
especially with photoshop around

we is a great word to use ... i'm sorry you suddenly seem to have lost the knack for saying and hearing it. i've tried to share my thoughts with you ... you ignore them ... oh well. How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your health.
WE is a nice word as all words are nice words until you put them together with others conveying all sorts of mischief.
For example, try this on which is in accord with your own sentence above:
For example, try this on which is in accord with your own sentence above:
Mark paraphrasing Seth to Seth: ... How have you been feeling lately, brother? I'm concerned about your mental health.
...

Actually i have been feeling great lately ... especially mentally, thanks for asking

Actually I am better than ever -no throat problem at all !!! I lost about 100 pounds & am exploring Zen Body Being at a new level of ability. Thanks for asking! (If you really did?)


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-04-25 06:16:05 17318
this meme, especially with the toddler reading The Exorcist, is very funny


What is not funny at all is that you seem to be loosing faith in language.
Hope you get well soon






Hope you get well soon


Yeah it was a sick joke which I found when I googled around for an appropriate image to tzu to words.
I am not sick. I want something that conveys an emotional truth rather than a pile of your abstract words. I enjoy words & even making them up on occasion. When I watch the news, politicians, media in excess, the words are hollow lies & bullshit & rarely convey anything except the ego of the user or what he wished were true to puff up same. You may be right - I am sick & tired of the lies which are spinning around in M$M & the chatterboxes of the twits in social media.



I am not sick. I want something that conveys an emotional truth rather than a pile of your abstract words. I enjoy words & even making them up on occasion. When I watch the news, politicians, media in excess, the words are hollow lies & bullshit & rarely convey anything except the ego of the user or what he wished were true to puff up same. You may be right - I am sick & tired of the lies which are spinning around in M$M & the chatterboxes of the twits in social media.



Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-04-24 14:43:55 17318
The sarcasm on words is noticed. Deny it & it just proves the rest of this comment. Since words & woods have a certain riming slang undercurrent I shall identify all further words sarcasm as Seth's woodie (double meaning intended).
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The purpose which sired this post has not been appreciated nor even recognized.
I encourage use of multi media & in particular music & Art to pass on emotional truths instead of words, self-identified as "my truth" which often use words differently than in a dictionary or can be traced back to their origins with etymology. What's the use of using words if they get munged in with words that mean entirely different things or side-track my original communication?
Pretend precision through abstraction & diagrams, while useful in mentography, where the entire domains of ontology might be clear or shared, usually fall short of their intent - so why use words.

.
The purpose which sired this post has not been appreciated nor even recognized.
I encourage use of multi media & in particular music & Art to pass on emotional truths instead of words, self-identified as "my truth" which often use words differently than in a dictionary or can be traced back to their origins with etymology. What's the use of using words if they get munged in with words that mean entirely different things or side-track my original communication?
Pretend precision through abstraction & diagrams, while useful in mentography, where the entire domains of ontology might be clear or shared, usually fall short of their intent - so why use words.

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-04-24 15:15:10 17318
Hey Art and multi media expression is great ... how can anyone deny that ... to be honest it almost does not need to be said. Writing in the words of language is also art. And is interperted by the audience ... just exactly, and maybe even more so, than English. With good will and careful speaking and just as careful listening we can usefully communicate ... even really deep things. I am not having any troubles with others. Of late you don't seem to understand my writing as i intend them to mean ... it is almost like you don't want to. Perhaps i should just shut up ... no communication necessary. Mostly i like to write about things in deapth that are in the thrust of the train of my life. I then read them back as a kind of meditation. You don't need to read them and comment on them or even try to understand them ... just ignore them, if you want. But always ragging on them and twisting them and accusing me of stuff in your imagination is a waste of my energy to read and i'm betting doesn't make you feel good either. Then too your avoiding acknowledging when we finally see the same thing or delving into something that is known to have gotten confused between us means that we never can actually converge on a mutual understanding.
Can you tell me more about your Zen Body Being? ... that sounded real interesting.
Einai 2014-04-24 14:48:57 17318
Einai 2014-04-24 14:43:55 17318
The sarcasm on words is noticed. Deny it & it just proves the rest of this comment. Since words & woods have a certain riming slang undercurrent I shall identify all further words sarcasm as Seth's woodie (double meaning intended).
.
The purpose which sired this post has not been appreciated nor even recognized.
I encourage use of multi media & in particular music & Art to pass on emotional truths instead of words, self-identified as "my truth" which often use words differently than in a dictionary or can be traced back to their origins with etymology. What's the use of using words if they get munged in with words that mean entirely different things or side-track my original communication?
Pretend precision through abstraction & diagrams, while useful in mentography, where the entire domains of ontology might be clear or shared, usually fall short of their intent - so why use words.

.
The purpose which sired this post has not been appreciated nor even recognized.
I encourage use of multi media & in particular music & Art to pass on emotional truths instead of words, self-identified as "my truth" which often use words differently than in a dictionary or can be traced back to their origins with etymology. What's the use of using words if they get munged in with words that mean entirely different things or side-track my original communication?
Pretend precision through abstraction & diagrams, while useful in mentography, where the entire domains of ontology might be clear or shared, usually fall short of their intent - so why use words.

Hey Art and multi media expression is great ... how can anyone deny that ... to be honest it almost does not need to be said. Writing in the words of language is also art. And is interperted by the audience ... just exactly, and maybe even more so, than English. With good will and careful speaking and just as careful listening we can usefully communicate ... even really deep things. I am not having any troubles with others. Of late you don't seem to understand my writing as i intend them to mean ... it is almost like you don't want to. Perhaps i should just shut up ... no communication necessary. Mostly i like to write about things in deapth that are in the thrust of the train of my life. I then read them back as a kind of meditation. You don't need to read them and comment on them or even try to understand them ... just ignore them, if you want. But always ragging on them and twisting them and accusing me of stuff in your imagination is a waste of my energy to read and i'm betting doesn't make you feel good either. Then too your avoiding acknowledging when we finally see the same thing or delving into something that is known to have gotten confused between us means that we never can actually converge on a mutual understanding.
Can you tell me more about your Zen Body Being? ... that sounded real interesting.
Zen-Body Being with the exception that it corresponds to RS's Balance, Movement, Life & Warmth senses somewhat is in this link.
The rest of the comment is about you.

Mark de LA says
As the proverbial tree falls in the forest, I ask do words have meaning if they are never read nor heard by a human?


Mark de LA says
Mark de LA says
Mark de LA says
RS on Listening: https://rudolfsteinerquotes.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/tolerance-4/?fbclid=IwAR3_G8pBRURiMSXnmGHUcdfRWJg3lL_Wz3e4s2IDvLVtrFj5pdLtb0huZ6Q
RS on Listening: https://rudolfsteinerquotes.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/tolerance-4/?fbclid=IwAR3_G8pBRURiMSXnmGHUcdfRWJg3lL_Wz3e4s2IDvLVtrFj5pdLtb0huZ6Q
Mark de LA says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5AuFDHdrrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5AuFDHdrrg
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