Interesting use of hashtag as headline

About: #HashtagAsTitle & #HashtagAsHeadline

they also show up on talent shows like the Voice & American idol and other places on the TV screen.
p.s.
I don't yet appreciate the word hashtag since a pound sign is not a hash, but it is growing on me mainly because it usually points to a pile of hash.

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Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-06-04 08:00:25 17436
Lets see where google #MarineHeldinMexico leads
Nope! doesn't work because the fbi makes it all lowercase & we get a lecture on quote marks. It does work if you type it in.
Maybe this will work..

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-04 08:31:46 17436
hashtags are just tags ... like tags here at fastblogit.  they are tags spelled so that protocols (even human ones) recognize them as such ... in other words spell a tag by preceeding it with the character "#".  i believe twitter was the first place to start that convention.  so the "#" becomes just a syntactic command to search out and collect the context of items tagged with that character string. 

fortunately, or unfortunately, "#" also is a syntactic command in the web http protocol.  when it appears in a url it means for the client to go to that part of the document which is so tagged ... supposedly by an anchor.  that part of a URL is not even transmitted to the server when the client clicks on a hyperlink. 

given that knowledge ... i don't know that this item is driving at.  if the title of an article is to be stated in its URL, then that which follows the # will never be transmitted to the server to find it.  that is just an "er nasty" feature of the http protocol. 
The hashtag persists far outside of the original article & is used by everyone on the Internet & os shorter to remember than the title, dude - that's what I am driving at.
P.s. I knew what it is already.


Mark de LA says
From one point of view it is the computers & the Internet forcing humans to code their material so that the computer can find it again. The computer programs the human.


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-04 09:03:30 17436
well hashtags point to contexts ... and ... er ... quite independent, i observe, of the particular servers involved.  That, imho, is why they are so useful.  I kind of proposed that myself here in 2005 ... note the title of the item.   In other words these hashtags are the server independent URL to contexts.  That is why i love them and think they are one of the most important things to start happening on the internet since sliced bread.  and also why i abhor people corrupting them.

i said all just so you would know my attitude towards them.

Now i can read your description "The hashtag persists far outside of the original article & is used by everyone on the Internet & is shorter to remember than the title" to suggest just about the same thing i expressed above.  Me thinks, going beyond that a bit, that hastags are the start of actual natural language words being formed and used on the internet linking up human language with the artificial mechinisms of the Internet.  In other words "we don't need no stinking domain names" in our URLs.  #dontneeddomainnames

now what was that "dude" all about?


Thanks #SethIsPedantic - gotta run got another class elsewhere.

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-04 10:40:46 17436
source: mark
Like going to a party or out in the mall & finding that most people have their face buried in their cell phones - even at meetings.

... yeah i'm not sure how to emote about them doing that. 

me thinks the assumption underlying your attitude there is that always what is most important for a person to interact with is always immediately present to them geographically ... and that people do not at times shut the remote awareness off and interact f2f just as intensely as ever.  lol ... but then they turn on the TV or get distracted by other means.   i say, yes sure, obsessive distraction from the here and now is a growing bad habit in our society.  some of the new tools and apps are building up the lure ... stickier and stickier ... and like flies people are getting stuck.  the trick, me thinks, here is not to throw out the baby with the bath water. 
Maybe you should consult your i-whatever & see if there is an app for that!


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-04 09:56:37 17436
Einai 2014-06-04 09:29:46 17436
seth 2014-06-04 09:21:33 17436
Einai 2014-06-04 08:43:20 17436
From one point of view it is the computers & the Internet forcing humans to code their material so that the computer can find it again. The computer programs the human.


well that point of view is pretty close to horseshit.  use your own thoughts about ease of human remembering, which you already represented above, to see that it is humans learning to communicate better withing this new medium in which we swim.  coining the tag is KING ... there are good tags, and not so good tags, and horrible tags.  i think most of the horrible ones are ones where somebody tries to burn their personal attitude about a context into its very name.  i call that a corruption of language itself. 
It is just a wallaby, Dude.  One day decades ago I had taken a half gram of hash near the xmas break & it started in before I got a chance to finish my computer work - in those days it took a day's turnaround to get the results of a Cobol compile on pounds of paper from the computer room in the basement.  I had to finish off my work before going home.  I was just about the only one there.  I got then the wallaby that the computer was running the show & my job was just to get the code & words into the computer or it would barf up my work & make me do it again until I "got it right" .... this is just an extension to that wallaby, other (your) burgers notwithstanding.


Ok, kewl, i get your wallaby.   there is even more truth to it than bullshit fear.   Most of my working career was in the service of using the computer to control the chaotic behavior of humans.  I kid you not.  and, guess what, i got quite good at doing just that.  I recognized early on what i was doing and for whom ... er, for the people who own the computer ... in my career that was people who owned businesses.  Knowing that was one of the reasons that i was able to implement applications that actually worked for the people who were paying me. 

Then, what happened ... everybody got to own their own computer.  That changes things a bit, eh?  Now, we could ask, what is still going on ... and what has changed?

Incidentally the advent of the #hashtag was not in service of any particular computer owner.  Something to think about, eh?
Like going to a party or out in the mall & finding that most people have their face buried in their cell phones - even at meetings.


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-06 06:44:36 17436
MR 2014-06-06 06:29:29 17436
Funny thingy here is that what I wanted out of this post was an appreciation of the appearance of hashtags as headlines instead of the usual headline.
Nope
Snuck not today.


well there is a technical problem with trying to include the "#" character in the title of an article on the internet ... see my first comment.  But i suppose there is a coding trick that could even allow it.

But yeah ... articles about some tag titeled with the tag (or #hashtag) would be great if they suddenly started to appear ... haven't seen any real ones in the wilds ... have you?

hmmm ... i wonder if it would even work here
WOW! Still explaining & arguing!  Wonder what an appreciation of the appearance of hashtags as headlines in Media like foxnews etc would look like ? I know fastblogit has quit changing.

Seth says
source: mark
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
... actually, sorry, i don't think it is a good idea (and not for the reasons i already mentioned) ... but i won't go into them just because you seem to have some kind of aversion to your ideas being subjected to critical examination. 

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-06 07:57:50 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 07:47:04 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:39:15 17436
source: mark
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
... actually, sorry, i don't think it is a good idea (and not for the reasons i already mentioned) ... but i won't go into them just because you seem to have some kind of aversion to your ideas being subjected to critical examination. 
Yep - still rwg.


nope, it's about the thing ... not about you ... not about me. 
It is so automatic you can't help yourself. You are arguing you were right all along with the "I'm an unbiased observer/commentator " stance.
Can't escape.


Seth says
and on G+ here ... the problem with that tweet is that #NiceWebEvolution is a new coin ... might want to find an already existing tag room.

it also brings to mind that what the world needs now is to web service (protocol) that would collect all items tagged with the same hashtag.  in other words make a domain independent tag room.   i would actually be surprised if sombody had not already done that ... unfortunately wherever it is being done, it is not flourishing because i haven't heard about it.

Mark de LA says
#NiceWebEvolution or not.  Since headlines are usually hype (see Drudge) it is a curious step to call the headline the whole conversation (assessible via hashtags) as the headline, eh?
or not


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-06 06:58:03 17436
well it works here because the title of the an item does not appear in the url of the item ... unfortunately many news websites include the title of the article in the url ... see this one at CNN. if that CNN title was #bowe-bergdahl-release, then the url would be http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/politics/#bowe-bergdahl-release and it would not work as a hyperlink.   my reaction is still the same, "that is just an ... er nasty ...  feature of the http protocol".   That is an argument, but me thinks it will explain why you will not be seeing these kind of hashtag titles cropping up in the actual wilds of news stories on the internet.
& yet still arguing here.
I don't yet care why it doesn't work here. I appreciate why it might work somewhere.
#NiceWebEvolution



Mark de LA says
& .....
  • NO MORE ARGUING ABOUT FASTBLOGIT FRAILTIES & LACK

Seth says
MR 2014-06-06 07:06:10 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:02:29 17436
MR 2014-06-06 06:52:14 17436
#NiceWebEvolution or not.  Since headlines are usually hype (see Drudge) it is a curious step to call the headline the whole conversation (assessible via hashtags) as the headline, eh?
or not


huh?  i read that 3 times now and i still don't know what you are saying.

Can you say it more plainly?
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
  • WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING HEADLINES
  • HEADLINES ARE HYPE
  • HASHTAGS GET THE WHOLEINTERNET INVOLVED IN THE STORY MEANING
  • SAMO-SAMO TAGS 
  • NO APPRECIATION OF THIS BY BOZO



well i floated it on twitter .. let's see if it gains any traction.

Seth says
source: mark
I think the wallaby will get eaten & turn into shit.
Tags can be abused too.
... Well i like the expression that "wallabies get eaten and turn into shit" ... er, not that they do ... but that that is a great way to express that they do ... no "" at all.

That tags get abused is one of my pet peeves ... i, er, guess that you know that about me and tags.  What i am afraid of is that mushing all the words in a title of an article is going right square into the direction that i consider tag abuse.  sorry about that eating your wallaby and shitting it out ... but that's just the way the cookie crumbles ... don't insert your actual self into the shit (er, don't take it personally, it was not meant as such) ... unless, of course, you like feeling like shit ... in other words, it's not about you, it's about tags and titles
 .


Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-06-06 07:44:27 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:39:15 17436
source: mark
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
... actually, sorry, i don't think it is a good idea (and not for the reasons i already mentioned) ... but i won't go into them just because you seem to have some kind of aversion to your ideas being subjected to critical examination. 
Google found it!
&
it's just another tag
I think the wallaby will get eaten & turn into shit.
Tags can be abused too.
(*)
Good though!


Mark de LA says
Contemplate what keeps you arguing.  That's IT!


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-06 09:01:20 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 08:05:08 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:57:50 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 07:47:04 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:39:15 17436
source: mark
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
... actually, sorry, i don't think it is a good idea (and not for the reasons i already mentioned) ... but i won't go into them just because you seem to have some kind of aversion to your ideas being subjected to critical examination. 
Yep - still rwg.


nope, it's about the thing ... not about you ... not about me. 
It is so automatic you can't help yourself. You are arguing you were right all along with the "I'm an unbiased observer/commentator " stance.
Can't escape.


it is your theory that one must respond to preserve self.  and that response is automatic.

A corollary of that theory would be that people cannot be objective. 

but i think those situations apply differently to different people, and differently to the same person at different times.   Therefore to presume those situations always occur,  is a error of judgement. 


YOU have however proved my point. Way back there when I first mentioned the RWG you claimed that it is just a bad habit which can be broken.  I claimed it was infrequent that only for brief satori-like moments do we get outside the fundamental machinery.  So far I am winning the argument & still practicing the RWG at the same time &
Still laughing. ""

Seth says
Einai 2014-06-06 08:05:08 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:57:50 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 07:47:04 17436
seth 2014-06-06 07:39:15 17436
source: mark
  • NICE IDEA HASHTAGS INSTEAD OF HEADLINES.
... actually, sorry, i don't think it is a good idea (and not for the reasons i already mentioned) ... but i won't go into them just because you seem to have some kind of aversion to your ideas being subjected to critical examination. 
Yep - still rwg.


nope, it's about the thing ... not about you ... not about me. 
It is so automatic you can't help yourself. You are arguing you were right all along with the "I'm an unbiased observer/commentator " stance.
Can't escape.


it is your theory that one must respond to preserve self.  and that response is automatic.

A corollary of that theory would be that people cannot be objective. 

but i think those situations apply differently to different people, and differently to the same person at different times.   Therefore to presume those situations always occur,  is a error of judgement. 



Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-06 10:48:42 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 10:41:02 17436
seth 2014-06-06 10:27:13 17436
Einai 2014-06-06 10:09:27 17436
seth 2014-06-06 10:04:36 17436
source: mark
Still laughing. ""
... ... i'm curious ... why have you started putting laughs in quotes?
Some funny irony, eh?


... er, i still don't get it.  laughing is one thing, quoting laughter is talking about laughing ... well at least that's what i believe quoting means in our language in this context.   i could actually diagram that as a use case you requested.  i don't understand how talking about laughing instead of laughing becomes irony ... er unless i go pretty deep and then i get lost in just guessing what is the real emotion over there that you are expressing ... if in fact you are expressing an emotion ... so i end up with just "" instead of "".  There, see, i quoted the emotions because i was not expressing them there but rather was just talking about them. 

so still and all i go and overtly ... and apparently must remain in that state .
Proving my point yet again. Bozo can't stop the "I'm right game" (rwg).
"" oops!


i don't get where there was a feeling in me of being right at your expense ... or for that matter that there would even be a right or wrong thing even involved here.   over here is was more me trying to feel feel what prompted you to start putting quotes around your laughfs.  whatever that was that prompted you was neither right or wrong to me ... but rather just unknown. 

Now you playing the rwg in this inquiry is, me feels just your bad habit. 

and i will stop just as soon as you leave no interesting edge for me to persue ... me i always go after those edges ... i follow my nose to what interests it ... and the smell of shit is for the most part just disgusting.
Well, for one you are VERY OFF TOPIC .
If you want to discuss the RWG go to one of the s rgw
If you want to smell shit go 17441 & sniff the back end .
Otherwise "" enjoy the picture above.


Seth says

... continuation summary is here.

Mark de LA says
Yeah, I already gave up on the idea some while ago. Nice that someone else got in the conversation from G+


Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-06-08 07:16:31 17436
Yeah, I already gave up on the idea some while ago. Nice that someone else got in the conversation from G+

Using both like fox did provides conversation about the topic outside of fox.

Mark de LA says
It might be interesting to have all the hashtags for a single event/story available via some app like the visual thesaurus:


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-08 07:57:15 17436
i think "all the hashtags for a single event/story available" is a great idea

these things cluster ... anything from the cluster could come into focus ... ever wonder where thoughts come from?
maybe call it a #hashcloud

Seth says
Einai 2014-06-08 07:59:23 17436
seth 2014-06-08 07:57:15 17436
i think "all the hashtags for a single event/story available" is a great idea

these things cluster ... anything from the cluster could come into focus ... ever wonder where thoughts come from?
maybe call it a #hashcloud

yeah well called .   me thinks all representations cluster in a similar texture.

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