Human and Cosmic Thought By Rudolf Steiner

perhaps well worth a detailed study.

6 Spectrums orthogonal to some other categories.

 

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Seth says
Einai 2014-06-06 16:03:29 17447
seth 2014-06-06 15:31:47 17447
Einai 2014-06-06 15:10:24 17447
seth 2014-06-06 14:40:01 17447
Mark, if it is your believe that this diagram does not compare 6 spectrums, then you should explain why ... otherwise attaching not 6 spectrums is just confusing our mind here.
The spectrum is circular around the zodiac not across the zodiac.  The poles of a sign are on opposite of the zodiac - that's all.


Well the spectrums go across the zodiac and around the circle too.

there are at least 2 spectrums (at right angels here) that i am quite familiar with:
  1. Materialism <---> Spiritualism
  2. Idealism <---> Realism

Those are spectrums.  It is easy to read the other 4 right off the diagram. 

And yes, by the nature of the arrangement of dualities around a circle, the circle itself becomes a circular spectrum ... though I don't know yet what it means to go back in the other direction and visit different things. 

OK you see it differently.  I was wrong with respect to your viewpoint. I concede. Take my shit out of here or not. Adios.

not a problem at all ... i had not noticed the circular spectrum ... thanks for that.

and, incidentally the very nature of a circular spectrum is quite a wallaby to conceive ... i think we touched on that briefly before (reference escapes me) ... at some point maybe i can grock it ... right now it is just a mystery.

Mark de LA says
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Hey, you're your own person, and you do what you do, and feel what you feel, and think what you think, and i have nothing to say about that except to dance with what i can hear from it. The parts of that that i don't like i tend to just ignore ... they are otherness to me. The parts of that which resonate over here i try to amplify and use and even perchance reflect back to you so you can feel them outside yourself. I am always wanting that same attitude towards me, coming from you. I'll leave it to you to characterize what your attitude towards me actually is.



Seth says
Einai 2014-06-06 16:43:03 17447
There is no profit arguing different points of view.  The zodiac portrayed is philosophical viewpoints - not colors of the rainbow or the electromagnetic spectrum.  Via our Sun signs mine would be phenomenalism & yours would be dynamism. They are essentially perpendicular. Which is my real world experience in our vast corpus of interchange here at fbi anyway.  My mood is more gnostic while yours is empericism.  Again no profit in arguing in those moods ourose points of view against each other either.
I don't have any problem with mine & it works for me. I don't really have a farthing's worth of interest in changing methodology - mine or yours - especially by arguing at this time. So as far as this item is concerned it has become low in priority for my eyeballs & interests as is.
Good luck finding whatever you seek for whatever reason you seek same.


well yes certainly, "arguing" different points of view would be just like two eye balls of the same face arguing about which view is true ... me thinks that would give one double vision ... so the trick is for both to become aware of the differences and  then collectively see the whole. 

I don't think the philosophical views are pixilated ... rather they blend into each other ... er, they do form a spectrum ... and RS did seem to present them that way ... for example variations blending Materialism to Realism ...  also see other quadrants.  I suppose one could analze it more mathematically, by choosing a whole set of axioms that each point believes without question.  Then choosing different axioms form the set could actually blend say Spiritualism to Realism.   Anyway that's the way i see it. 

You certainly are more gnostic to my empiricism.  to me you seem to glory in the secrecy of mysticism ... long shifting arrows ... shifting symbols ... as if amazing secrets were in their heads.  me, i have not gotten the knack of doing that ... sorry i go the other way and try to shorten the arrows as much as humanly possible.  maybe i am doing it wrong ... i do certainly loose some of the amazement with too much clarity.  different strokes eh? ... no profit in arguing about them ... but much profit in being able to see both at the same time as one.

Seth says
Einai 2014-06-07 10:47:56 17447
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Hey, you're your own person, and you do what you do, and feel what you feel, and think what you think, and i have nothing to say about that except to dance with what i can hear from it. The parts of that that i don't like i tend to just ignore ... they are otherness to me. The parts of that which resonate over here i try to amplify and use and even perchance reflect back to you so you can feel them outside yourself. I am always wanting that same attitude towards me, coming from you. I'll leave it to you to characterize what your attitude towards me actually is.



yes interesting and potentially a fertile thing to mediate on here  .

 
Problem is i actually cannot easily guess what you want me to compare my paragraph to ... the context here at the moment of occurrence of your comment is way way to broad.   I thinks  that you are presuming that i could.  I suppose that i could try to guess, but then that would be to crawl into your mind and simulate it back when you clicked send ... but, sorry, not into that ... er just according to my paragraph above ... so i will just ignore that as otherness to me, it is just a thing that you thought that i have nothing to say about since, after all, you are your own sovereign man.

Now were that a point of resonance between us ... then alas ... i will probably never know ... and will have missed a grand opportunity ... oh well .

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