I Declare a Requiem on Arguing about Arguing or about the RWG

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Comments


Mark de LA says
I like the drama of a requiem. 

Seth says
great let's just not do it

Seth says


Ode to joy

and a child's eye

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-06-30 17:05:58 17511
so a ceremony ... music and all that jazz?
Yeah. ... kinda like the Blurred Lines video.

Mark de LA says


Seth says
Then too perhaps this needs to be in the requiem too ...



Mark de LA says
seth 2014-07-02 09:23:35 17511
bad link

Mark de LA says
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



Seth says
mark 2014-08-27 09:02:47 17511
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



... Yes: cooperate, agree and reinforce wherever it is possible, .... ignore the opposite that is not in my network. 

Incidentally i get how destroying distinctions can be freedom ... old distinctions can be walls ... can be habits that restrain possibilities.  I like the idea that this RWG is just such a distinction ... and that we are free now to transcend it .

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-08-27 09:14:44 17511
mark 2014-08-27 09:02:47 17511
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



... Yes: cooperate, agree and reinforce wherever it is possible, .... ignore the opposite that is not in my network. 

Incidentally i get how destroying distinctions can be freedom ... old distinctions can be walls ... can be habits that restrain possibilities.  I like the idea that this RWG is just such a distinction ... and that we are free now to transcend it .
Yeah, kinda pablum - "don't do it" stuff ... need something stronger than that. -or- create the distinction for real not just a bunch of epigrams, imho. You have those distinctions already as words & it doesn't make the RWG go away, does it?


Seth says
choy 2014-08-27 10:23:46 17511
seth 2014-08-27 09:14:44 17511
mark 2014-08-27 09:02:47 17511
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



... Yes: cooperate, agree and reinforce wherever it is possible, .... ignore the opposite that is not in my network. 

Incidentally i get how destroying distinctions can be freedom ... old distinctions can be walls ... can be habits that restrain possibilities.  I like the idea that this RWG is just such a distinction ... and that we are free now to transcend it .
Yeah, kinda pablum - "don't do it" stuff ... need something stronger than that. -or- create the distinction for real not just a bunch of epigrams, imho. You have those distinctions already as words & it doesn't make the RWG go away, does it?


Well it does kind of for me ... though, as you mention , it is not the words that do it ... but rather the actual deed of cooperation, agreeing, or at least understanding, and not caring whether i am right or you are wrong.     rather i like to assume that i am responding to move our mutual understanding along to something better than some contradiction of the moment.  

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-08-27 10:53:40 17511
choy 2014-08-27 10:23:46 17511
seth 2014-08-27 09:14:44 17511
mark 2014-08-27 09:02:47 17511
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



... Yes: cooperate, agree and reinforce wherever it is possible, .... ignore the opposite that is not in my network. 

Incidentally i get how destroying distinctions can be freedom ... old distinctions can be walls ... can be habits that restrain possibilities.  I like the idea that this RWG is just such a distinction ... and that we are free now to transcend it .
Yeah, kinda pablum - "don't do it" stuff ... need something stronger than that. -or- create the distinction for real not just a bunch of epigrams, imho. You have those distinctions already as words & it doesn't make the RWG go away, does it?


Well it does kind of for me ... though, as you mention , it is not the words that do it ... but rather the actual deed of cooperation, agreeing, or at least understanding, and not caring whether i am right or you are wrong.     rather i like to assume that i am responding to move our mutual understanding along to something better than some contradiction of the moment.  
Is the distinction destroyed for you yet?

Seth says
choy 2014-08-27 10:59:46 17511
seth 2014-08-27 10:53:40 17511
choy 2014-08-27 10:23:46 17511
seth 2014-08-27 09:14:44 17511
mark 2014-08-27 09:02:47 17511
BofNK - 24:27
Power lies in making distinctions.
Freedom lies in destroying them.
NOW,
     Is it possible to destroy the disting RWG?
     HOW?
Got a counter distinction?



... Yes: cooperate, agree and reinforce wherever it is possible, .... ignore the opposite that is not in my network. 

Incidentally i get how destroying distinctions can be freedom ... old distinctions can be walls ... can be habits that restrain possibilities.  I like the idea that this RWG is just such a distinction ... and that we are free now to transcend it .
Yeah, kinda pablum - "don't do it" stuff ... need something stronger than that. -or- create the distinction for real not just a bunch of epigrams, imho. You have those distinctions already as words & it doesn't make the RWG go away, does it?


Well it does kind of for me ... though, as you mention , it is not the words that do it ... but rather the actual deed of cooperation, agreeing, or at least understanding, and not caring whether i am right or you are wrong.     rather i like to assume that i am responding to move our mutual understanding along to something better than some contradiction of the moment.  
Is the distinction destroyed for you yet?

well to be honest with you i am not sure it is.  i still know when i respond to defend myself against something that is being said wrong usually about me.  still sometimes i cannot interpret your comments as anything but just defending yourself.   thing is, when i detect that happening, i do not have to respond in kind ... and frequently do not.  rather my interest is peaked to find a way to move the agreeing along.   I fucking love to agree where i can.  Have you noticed?

Seth says
incidentally, if you think i am hard not to do rwg with, try talking with somebody like Mostafa.

Mark de LA says
One has to be really zen to not hold the RWG as wrong
... similar in style as life is empty & meaningless & that is empty & meaningless.


Seth says
choy 2014-08-27 11:49:39 17511
... so the answer is NO! ... whether it is with me or probably anyone else.
I hold it this way:
In as much as part of the Lord's Prayer
source: ... forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors
or the other version
... forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
... is answered so the RWG goes away ... but hey, that may just be my wallaby.



well if it works for you, then it is Great!  Sometimes i think that the reason something works, as written in a language, is unimportant ... what matters is that you actually do it.  So my written words describe how i do it, and your written words describe how you do it ... the difference may be just different ways to rationalize what happens ... the salient edge becomes that it does happen.

Mark de LA says
... so the answer is NO! ... whether it is with me or probably anyone else.
I hold it this way:
In as much as part of the Lord's Prayer
source: ... forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors
or the other version
... forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
... is answered so the RWG goes away ... but hey, that may just be my wallaby.



Seth says
choy 2014-08-27 11:51:52 17511
One has to be really zen to not hold the RWG as wrong
... similar in style as life is empty & meaningless & that is empty & meaningless.


not sure i get that one.  I still hold that RWG is a bad habit, best avoided.  I do not judge that it is meaningless whether i do it or not ... it does matter ... see "What we do to each other matters, for that is the very being of our humanity".  but that must not have been what you meant.  So what did you mean?

Mark de LA says
seth 2014-08-27 12:15:15 17511
choy 2014-08-27 11:51:52 17511
One has to be really zen to not hold the RWG as wrong
... similar in style as life is empty & meaningless & that is empty & meaningless.


not sure i get that one.  I still hold that RWG is a bad habit, best avoided.  I do not judge that it is meaningless whether i do it or not ... it does matter ... see "What we do to each other matters, for that is the very being of our humanity".  but that must not have been what you meant.  So what did you mean?
I agree you do not get that one!

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