#GrosseLugie
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A big lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." Hitler asserted the technique was used by Jews to unfairly blame Germany's loss in World War I on German Army officer Erich Ludendorff.
See also the Urban Dictionary on Lugie
#BigLie and #GrosseLugie are hashtags for this idea
Now percolating (or per-colonating) in all media mostly M$M & tethered blogosphere in CyberSpace.
Be it noted now that history & politics were my least favorite subjects growing up post WW-II. History for me as taught in the public schools was just one continuous sequence of wars & dates & names of famous people. It didn't become somewhat interesting until I learned in ECON-101 in college that a lot of the wars were based in economics.
I reluctantly focus some of my attention on how to evolve a system without the wars & their dates as so-called history. I know of no other way other than being present to what is going on at this present moment of what is soon to become history in the next moment. Perhaps it is all a #GrosseLugie & I would be happy to ignore it or let it be. OTOH, it saddens me that it interferes with so much of what otherwise would be living lives of synergy within ourselves & others instead.

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See also the Urban Dictionary on Lugie
#BigLie and #GrosseLugie are hashtags for this idea
Now percolating (or per-colonating) in all media mostly M$M & tethered blogosphere in CyberSpace.
Be it noted now that history & politics were my least favorite subjects growing up post WW-II. History for me as taught in the public schools was just one continuous sequence of wars & dates & names of famous people. It didn't become somewhat interesting until I learned in ECON-101 in college that a lot of the wars were based in economics.
I reluctantly focus some of my attention on how to evolve a system without the wars & their dates as so-called history. I know of no other way other than being present to what is going on at this present moment of what is soon to become history in the next moment. Perhaps it is all a #GrosseLugie & I would be happy to ignore it or let it be. OTOH, it saddens me that it interferes with so much of what otherwise would be living lives of synergy within ourselves & others instead.


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Mark de LA says
seth 2014-07-12 09:59:10 17538
well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush
!
that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
Einai 2014-07-12 09:42:35 17538
seth 2014-07-12 09:29:32 17538
Tina did something like this by jumping off a hot air balloon with a bungi cord attached to her feet
, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush

that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
... AND (&) that's your story;
Me, I .... go for the part I highlighted above.


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-07-12 09:29:32 17538
Tina did something like this by jumping off a hot air balloon with a bungi cord attached to her feet
, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

Mark de LA says
Thing is that this item has nothing to do with the volcano effect, but is about history & being unaware of previous history while #BigLies are being spread daily by M$M and others daily. That which is spread by media AND that which is ignored by media parallel previous generations such as those that spawned WW I-II; Korea; VietNam, Gulf War I,II; Afghanistan, Iraq & now seem to engulf the whole Middle East. Wake UP!


Seth says
Yep, the volcano effect is the same thing i described above
.
Woo Wee, agreement at last
.
But i'm not so very sure about all the other things that i have heard associated with terms like "direct experience thingy". Let's wait till those other associations crop up again.
Einai 2014-07-12 10:27:23 17538
seth 2014-07-12 10:23:55 17538
Oh i like those too
. Thing is, and this is the salient edge of what i am saying here, i've noticed that you can only do those once for the first time ... after that they are mere echos or habits or ceremonies or even just stories reenacted of the first time. good though nonetheless.
Einai 2014-07-12 10:14:59 17538
seth 2014-07-12 09:59:10 17538
well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush
!
that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
Einai 2014-07-12 09:42:35 17538
seth 2014-07-12 09:29:32 17538
Tina did something like this by jumping off a hot air balloon with a bungi cord attached to her feet
, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush

that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
... AND (&) that's your story;
Me, I .... go for the part I highlighted above.


Oh i like those too


Yep PR called that the volcano effect which I have written about before 2344 of 2005.
.. it is all about that direct experiene thingy.

Yep, the volcano effect is the same thing i described above



But i'm not so very sure about all the other things that i have heard associated with terms like "direct experience thingy". Let's wait till those other associations crop up again.
Mark de LA says
seth 2014-07-12 10:23:55 17538
Oh i like those too
. Thing is, and this is the salient edge of what i am saying here, i've noticed that you can only do those once for the first time ... after that they are mere echos or habits or ceremonies or even just stories reenacted of the first time. good though nonetheless.
Einai 2014-07-12 10:14:59 17538
seth 2014-07-12 09:59:10 17538
well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush
!
that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
Einai 2014-07-12 09:42:35 17538
seth 2014-07-12 09:29:32 17538
Tina did something like this by jumping off a hot air balloon with a bungi cord attached to her feet
, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

, twice both forwards & backwards in Perris, California. This looks more like a tourist version without the risk. At the time I was too heavy for their harnesses so I just watched. Somewhere we have the pictures.
Some say that a speed ball or a rave on X is a quick rush too.
I prefer the calm but wide-wide awake approach - rushes are over-rated; maybe even a #GrossLugie of the salesman legal or otherwise. Nothing works better during a Sting than the urgency of immanent reward or certain punishment.

well, perhaps that very moment where experience departs from narriative is the rush

that would be where it happens or gets experienced not by dint of habit ... but for the first time ... innocent of past history. Ahhh, yes, there be the rush!
... AND (&) that's your story;
Me, I .... go for the part I highlighted above.


Oh i like those too


Yep PR called that the volcano effect which I have written about before 2344 of 2005.
.. it is all about that direct experiene thingy.

Mark de LA says
Einai 2014-07-12 10:33:24 17538
Thing is that this item has nothing to do with the volcano effect, but is about history & being unaware of previous history while #BigLies are being spread daily by M$M and others daily. That which is spread by media AND that which is ignored by media parallel previous generations such as those that spawned WW I-II; Korea; VietNam, Gulf War I,II; Afghanistan, Iraq & now seem to engulf the whole Middle East. Wake UP!


Note for the Me,I thingy on the other end of this conversation that the
subject is about something else other than the volcano effect.


Mark de LA says
seth 2014-07-12 11:28:30 17538
Well of course i act and experience on my channel, not yours. But it is not true that i did not read your post several times and think i know exactly what you are saying .... not only that, but i also believe that what i said could inform what you said, would that you listen to it without the presumptions that you mention here.
Einai 2014-07-12 11:14:51 17538
seth 2014-07-12 10:51:43 17538
Well yes of course
... it almost goes without saying that an occurrence, even like this 17538, is experienced differently when seen from a different channels.
Einai 2014-07-12 10:45:47 17538
Einai 2014-07-12 10:33:24 17538
Thing is that this item has nothing to do with the volcano effect, but is about history & being unaware of previous history while #BigLies are being spread daily by M$M and others daily. That which is spread by media AND that which is ignored by media parallel previous generations such as those that spawned WW I-II; Korea; VietNam, Gulf War I,II; Afghanistan, Iraq & now seem to engulf the whole Middle East. Wake UP!


Note for the Me,I thingy on the other end of this conversation that the subject is about something else other than the volcano effect.


Well yes of course

It also means, like I have previously observed, that you don't really read what I post but go for the missmatch of whatever my post shows you as a touch stone for you opine about.


Well of course i act and experience on my channel, not yours. But it is not true that i did not read your post several times and think i know exactly what you are saying .... not only that, but i also believe that what i said could inform what you said, would that you listen to it without the presumptions that you mention here.
.. & yet the most important to me parts of what I wrote were not even addressed & talked about & you did as always comment tangentially or missmatch. For me the experience is one of not being heard. We are now stepping into the Requiem Territory. One option I have is to mark all my material private since I know what I mean when I write it. Another idea is for you to write your own story, your own Znuz is Znees so to speak & I will just read it after it is complete enough for you to say it is.
The fact is I am concerned about our country, my country at least & at my age I don't have the energy or ability to do much more than write about it or come up with alternatives that excite others.

The fact is I am concerned about our country, my country at least & at my age I don't have the energy or ability to do much more than write about it or come up with alternatives that excite others.

Mark de LA says
It is very clear to me that s threefoldness is the principle which would work if enough people get enrolled in the principle & do a grass roots, bottom up implementation of the principles.
You could tag your stuff with something like SBS (#SethBozoSum) & I will know you are just writing your story.

You could tag your stuff with something like SBS (#SethBozoSum) & I will know you are just writing your story.

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