recognizing an edge within an arbritrary boundary


How long will it take for us to realize ...

that Sunni and Shia and Kurd need their own space ?

The natural thing to do when you are too different to live with someone, is to move to a different house ... to divide ... to differentiate. Yet the powers that be in this world seem to think in this habit that Iraq, within its arbitrarily drawn boundary, must be just one nation.

Come on people ... recognize the actual nature of the situation !!!

source: Bozo Faust 2013

Edges
 
there are edges

in all domains

whether tangible

imaginary

or abstract.

Sometimes we see them

sometimes not

sometimes we imagine they exist

sometimes they do

sometimes not.

...

Tags

  1. sunni shea fight
  2. amorphism
  3. edges
  4. natural edges
  5. iraq
  6. hirsi ali

Comments


Seth says
seth 2014-08-12 03:49:14 17611
note the train of thought, amorphism, from this item has not been expressed.  it is probably static.

yep that train is just static .

multiple individual differentiated forms are pretty much the opposite of no form at all ... er, which it what "amorphous" means. 


now one could view the texture of differentiated forms approaching infinity, with the feeling of a luciferic chaotic mess ... but i don't know how that has anything to do with "no form at all". 

Einaian says
2014-08-12 12:37:51 17611
Nope! It applies generally to the words in your topic. But do what you like it is your item. Obviously it they still are fighting over it it is not really the edge.  As a metaphor for your stuff you might consider that an island has an arbitrary boundary with the sea because the sea changes with each wave .  However, most countries claim a 12 mile limit from some place on land not subject to change. OTOH, some people would prefer to roll back all nations to the state of the world encountered by Adam & Eve.


Einaian says
seth 2014-08-12 12:39:52 17611
source: mark
An edge with an arbitrary boundary yields no boundary/form at all - hence amorphous. Kinda like a identifying a turd in the middle of a pile of shit.


huh?    the arbitrary boundary, to which i refer,  was drawn by the West in the early 20th century ... it is not the real boundary that separates people in Iraq today.   I certainly am not advocating keeping that arbitrary boundary. 

So now can i just delete all that amorphism train of thought that includes this item?
It is not arbitrary & not a boundary.  More like the agressive use of force determines where it is & the people who participate in the conflict determine it's meaning.
... more above.


Seth says
source: mark
An edge with an arbitrary boundary yields no boundary/form at all - hence amorphous. Kinda like a identifying a turd in the middle of a pile of shit.


huh?    the arbitrary boundary, to which i refer,  was drawn by the West in the early 20th century ... it is not the real boundary that separates people in Iraq today.   I certainly am not advocating keeping that arbitrary boundary. 

So now can i just delete all that amorphism train of thought that includes this item?

Seth says
people fighting for territory and dominance is what ... er, usually ... establishes the boundary between their territories.  the edges that i am talking about are the actual differences in the people themselves ... in this case, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd. 

All i am saying is that the region should recognize the real differences between these people and give each separate people a soverign area for themselves.  Rather than artifically forcing all of them within the arbitrary boundary of Iraq.

or, to say it differently ... more biologically ... allow the entity to naturally differentiate.

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-12 14:38:32 17611
Einaian 2014-08-12 13:35:44 17611
seth 2014-08-12 13:27:16 17611
people fighting for territory and dominance is what ... er, usually ... establishes the boundary between their territories.  the edges that i am talking about are the actual differences in the people themselves ... in this case, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd. 

All i am saying is that the region should recognize the real differences between these people and give each separate people a soverign area for themselves.  Rather than artifically forcing all of them within the arbitrary boundary of Iraq.

or, to say it differently ... more biologically ... allow the entity to naturally differentiate.
Yep like segregation in the southern states of the US & the blacks & now the hispanics in this country who also speak different languages ... lets go backwards.

well obviously if the people of Iraq would practice toleration and learn not to kill each other, like most of us have over here, then we would not even be talking about it.  but in the near term separation might work better than this artificial presumed sameness.
... &ct if everyone learned to play by the Golden Rule there would be no wars.  OTOH, back in the real world had the Civil War not used the agressive use of force to change what was acceptable in commerce up to the emancipation proclamation things would be different.  All wars are ones of economics & commerce except perhaps those who chose death over life.
This is best expressed by Hirsi Ali in this YouTube:


Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-12 13:35:44 17611
seth 2014-08-12 13:27:16 17611
people fighting for territory and dominance is what ... er, usually ... establishes the boundary between their territories.  the edges that i am talking about are the actual differences in the people themselves ... in this case, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd. 

All i am saying is that the region should recognize the real differences between these people and give each separate people a soverign area for themselves.  Rather than artifically forcing all of them within the arbitrary boundary of Iraq.

or, to say it differently ... more biologically ... allow the entity to naturally differentiate.
Yep like segregation in the southern states of the US & the blacks & now the hispanics in this country who also speak different languages ... lets go backwards.

well obviously if the people of Iraq would practice toleration and learn not to kill each other, like most of us have over here, then we would not even be talking about it.  but in the near term separation might work better than this artificial presumed sameness.

Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-12 15:40:16 17611
I call a culture such as radical Islam where death is celebrated over life a belief-syphilis.
(worse pictures here)
The body of Islam has to be strong enough to heal itself. There are no antibiotics from outside that can cure it  - quaranteen it!!



i agree.

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