look inside the book



might be worth a read

thanks Breck

Tags

  1. differences
  2. rene guenon
  3. assuming being exists
  4. hemimetaboolia
  5. item 17502
  6. multiverse

Comments


Seth says
better reading here ...
Rene Guenon Symbolism of the Cross

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-12 12:00:13 17621
Einaian 2014-08-12 11:34:43 17621
2014-08-12 11:28:00 17621
Yeah, I still like the symbol & association of your word salad with 17622 or maybe a pile of pelglikkus.


yeah i'm quite familiar with your attempts to degrade my ability to communicate with you in language.  but why not go all the way ... make an app for it ... scramble all my words with random letters before you let them impinge your eyeballs?
None of what you are saying above is true except in your walled garden which can contain anything.
  I hold word salad as an assemblage of words which when I read them leaves nothing I can make an internal visual, auditory or kinesthetic (maybe also gustatory & olfactory as well) representation of in my mind.
The word hemimetaboolia , for those who have some grok of Greek & Latin roots of English words, modifies the basic root boolia which is something like the Booya which is friendly to start but by riming slang sounds a whole lot like the word bullshit with a similar exclamation.  So the root added to meta with for a programmer would be a pointer or a pointer to a pointer etc.  Hemi - is 500 fold as in a hemi engine. We have here hyper pointers like a world of hyper links to hyper links to .... -> infinity & beyond.   If something offered as a paragraph leaves no trace then to me all I can do with it is assign it to the [tagroom: tags hemimetaboolia] or [tagroom: tags hyperhemimetaboolia] etc. indicating that at least I read or tried to read it & make sense of it but coundn't ... & go on my merry way.  PR is a lot more direct with a little effort but not for the lazy or argumentative mismatcher.


Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-12 11:34:43 17621
2014-08-12 11:28:00 17621
Yeah, I still like the symbol & association of your word salad with 17622 or maybe a pile of pelglikkus.


yeah i'm quite familiar with your attempts to degrade my ability to communicate with you in language.  but why not go all the way ... make an app for it ... scramble all my words with random letters before you let them impinge your eyeballs?

Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-12 10:50:13 17621
seth 2014-08-12 09:07:01 17621
source: Wikipedia

If we [...] define Being in the universal sense as the principle of manifestation, and at the same time as comprising in itself the totality of possibilities of all manifestation, we must say that Being is not infinite because it does not coincide with total Possibility; and all the more so because Being, as the principle of manifestation, although it does indeed comprise all the possibilities of manifestation, does so only insofar as they are actually manifested. Outside of Being, therefore, are all the rest, that is all the possibilities of non-manifestation, as well as the possibilities of manifestation themselves insofar as they are in the unmanifested state; and included among these is Being itself, which cannot belong to manifestation since it is the principle thereof, and in consequence is itself unmanifested. For want of any other term, we are obliged to designate all that is thus outside and beyond Being as "Non-Being", but for us this negative term is in no way synonym for 'nothingness'.
... shades of PR.
Rather a shade of PR I prefer his own words like in Chapter 25 & 26 of BofNK. Your quote is mostly of straw-men & words.


well not my words, rather apparently Rene Guenon's.  but, yeah, I got the same word salad texture from BofNK , that i get from Gueon's paragraph above.  to me both attempt to break-the-mind with infinite nothing to get at mysticism.  my mind prefers more down to earth experiences that i can reproduce and share with others. 

incidentally i initially studied this because i thought, according to the title "multiplicity of states of being" that his thoughts might inform  17502, but apparently they do not  ... Guenon is going in an entirely different direction.  For me a symbol just gets arbitrarily associated with its context ... not mystical thing in and of itself.  
For me it's the Kontex, stupid ... er, look for the spirit itself ...  not some mere "symbol" of it.

Einaian says
As a shortcut contemplate the phrase this makes sense.  I need that phrase to apply otherwise I know I am encountering hyperhemimetaboolia & am wasting my time reading or chasing the meaning.


Seth says
source: mark
I hold word salad as an assemblage of words which when I read them leaves nothing I can make an internal visual, auditory or kinesthetic (maybe also gustatory & olfactory as well) representation of in my mind.
... Yeah i know. 

You are looking at something and not being able to recognize a pattern within it.  Metaphorically you are shown a picture and told there is a rabbit there, but you respond that you cannot see any rabbit in the picture. 

Incidentally many of the things i talk about are of the mind itself and its relationship to others.  They have no visual, auditor, or kinesthetic representation.  In that regard they are just like RS's spriitual world which also does not get sense objects to represent it.  Expecting those sense objects to get manifested in one's mind, would be to expect a category error.   But our language has actually evolved to talk about these things and communicate their patterns and contexts from mind to mind.  Many others are doing it quite nicely.  Feeling that one can't ... or that words are in and of themselves bullshit ... is not going to help one get the signals.  Nor is blaming the messenger. 

So, get well soon ... or not ...

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-12 13:10:52 17621
source: mark
I hold word salad as an assemblage of words which when I read them leaves nothing I can make an internal visual, auditory or kinesthetic (maybe also gustatory & olfactory as well) representation of in my mind.
... Yeah i know. 

You are looking at something and not being able to recognize a pattern within it.  Metaphorically you are shown a picture and told there is a rabbit there, but you respond that you cannot see any rabbit in the picture. 

Incidentally many of the things i talk about are of the mind itself and its relationship to others.  They have no visual, auditor, or kinesthetic representation.  In that regard they are just like RS's spriitual world which also does not get sense objects to represent it.  Expecting those sense objects to get manifested in one's mind, would be to expect a category error.   But our language has actually evolved to talk about these things and communicate their patterns and contexts from mind to mind.  Many others are doing it quite nicely.  Feeling that one can't ... or that words are in and of themselves bullshit ... is not going to help one get the signals.  Nor is blaming the messenger. 

So, get well soon ... or not ...
The sickness is in your mirror ... or not ... it is not like RS's spiritual world but go ahead & think so if you are happy in the garden. Patterns of hyperhemimetaboolia are patterns of links of links & yield nothing real except chasing through a maze that makes no sense. Enjoy the feeling of thinking that you have solved the maze.


Seth says
source: mark

The sickness is in your mirror ... or not ..
....   Strange that you declare the sickness is in me, when in a fit or honesty, you described your own symptoms ... "... word salad as an assemblage of words which when I read them leaves nothing I can make an internal visual, auditory or kinesthetic (maybe also gustatory & olfactory as well) representation of in my mind."  

Maybe you had just let that honesty slip out ... it actually surprised me when i read it ... i would have expected you to have blamed the words themselves. 

Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-12 15:31:21 17621
seth 2014-08-12 14:55:25 17621
source: mark

The sickness is in your mirror ... or not ..
....   Strange that you declare the sickness is in me, when in a fit or honesty, you described your own symptoms ... "... word salad as an assemblage of words which when I read them leaves nothing I can make an internal visual, auditory or kinesthetic (maybe also gustatory & olfactory as well) representation of in my mind."  

Maybe you had just let that honesty slip out ... it actually surprised me when i read it ... i would have expected you to have blamed the words themselves. 
Well, so far I don't see anyone else that steps up and says they understand the shit you write & expresses it in their own words .

Well you are the only one complaining.  Nathan is about the only person who i talk with who deals with this kind of materials ... and he seems to understand me quit well, even though he does not always agree.  I don't expect you will see it, but this hostility to my language is just some perculair thingie within you own being ... although, obviously you will blame me.   One reason i know that is that you almost never ask for clarification ... which is what people do when they are actually trying to understand something ... rather than just degrading it. 



See Also

  1. Thought I.T. with 224 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  2. Thought Radical Navigation of Attention with 116 viewings related by tag "MultiVerse".
  3. Thought new days with 108 viewings related by tag "MultiVerse".
  4. Thought A recognition ... with 35 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  5. Thought Does a person shape 100% of their experience? with 22 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  6. Thought Doorway to the Multiverse with 10 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  7. Thought Twilight Zone: Mirror Image with 7 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  8. Thought Contemplation with 6 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  9. Thought about: how to use parallel realities - shift into an alternate universe! - youtube with 4 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  10. Thought The wisdom of the natural seperating of being with 3 viewings related by tag "differences".
  11. Thought about: Ted Talk by Karen Armstrong via G+ with 2 viewings related by tag "differences".
  12. Thought about: Agreement from the gecko - comment 57646 with 2 viewings related by tag "differences".
  13. Thought Where our experiences meet ... with 1 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  14. Thought Love with 0 viewings related by tag "differences".
  15. Thought Reconciling Differences with 0 viewings related by tag "differences".
  16. Thought about: dialogue about multi-verses with 0 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  17. Thought A Cause & Effect Network with 0 viewings related by tag "multiverse".
  18. Thought Mixing different things ... creates complexity ... er, chaos with 0 viewings related by tag "differences".
  19. Thought Agreement from the gecko with 0 viewings related by tag "differences".
  20. Thought Two forces in our Nature with 0 viewings related by tag "differences".
  21. Thought Fascinating Words - Baltic or otherwise PAN European with 0 viewings related by tag "hemimetaboolia".
  22. Thought multiverse.net with 0 viewings related by tag "multiverse".