What Attracts Someone to ISLAM?

About: Wikipedia on Islam

I watched this movie last night with T & although it had "commercials" for the Christian Religion, it had a college setting & an interesting Socratic dialogue in one class & a nice ending. If you don't like religion or Christianity at all you won't like this one. The movie prompted my musings in the Title.
Normally something needs to be attractive to be followed, adopted or wanted.
I can't see anything attractive in Islam - more like coercive & submissive stuff.
This question explores the religion & not the traditions or writings or inheritance aspects or everyone is doing it in my neighborhood.
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My fundamental question for Islam is:
What place in Islam does LOVE occupy?
How does Love get taught in Islam if at all.
Where is the Golden Rule in Islam?
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If I had to answer that question for Christianity I would say:
God IS LOVE.
ngy
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One can contrast that with what Islam's answer seems to be:
God IS Great
tai

Tags

  1. christianity
  2. god
  3. great
  4. love
  5. islam

Comments


Einaian says
Then too it IS all meaningless.
The best we can do is look at what we encounter as the fruits & works which come out of such religion.


Seth says
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:26:56 17662
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:25:02 17662
seth 2014-08-22 10:17:24 17662
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:13:20 17662
seth 2014-08-22 10:04:25 17662
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 
What is attractive about that? (note topic)


... er, it feel real good to love and respect otherness.   It is sheer joy!
One might conclude from Seth:
God is Otherness


well it is a complex relationship ... from which that conclusion should not be draw .
Anything which you disagree with could be expressed that way making otherness not inclusive of everything except you.


Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:04:25 17662
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 
Yep ... God is Big ... as a meme creates certain behaviors which in some minds differs radically from God is Love which is my interpretation of Christianity ... your mileage always varying.


Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:13:20 17662
seth 2014-08-22 10:04:25 17662
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 
What is attractive about that? (note topic)


... er, it feel real good to love and respect otherness.   It is sheer joy!

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:04:25 17662
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 
What is attractive about that? (note topic)


Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:12:35 17662
incidentally, Love is where we show up for each other .... er, agree .... exchange fluids and food and sustance and purpose and dreams.  it is not tearing each other down.  Also a very Great Spirit ... er, just like the vast Otherness
So Love is facebook, parties & picnics.....

Seth says
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:15:01 17662
seth 2014-08-22 10:12:35 17662
incidentally, Love is where we show up for each other .... er, agree .... exchange fluids and food and sustance and purpose and dreams.  it is not tearing each other down.  Also a very Great Spirit ... er, just like the vast Otherness
So Love is facebook, parties & picnics.....

well i did not say that.  But like Jesus said, and sorry i paraphrase from memory,  "Where two or more are gathered in my name, I will be there".  Understood without any baggage that to me is the clearest and perhaps the earliest expression of my relational transactional agreeing neuronal network of humanity.  It lives, thriving quite beyond my minuscule frame of reference. 

Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:17:24 17662
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:13:20 17662
seth 2014-08-22 10:04:25 17662
to me, "God is Great", just expresses that The World of otherness is vast in comparison to just my small part of it ... it also, according to Islam, expresses the same respect that i have for that vast otherness.   Obviously that is just my interpretation of the words ... Muslims and/or you are quite free to tell other interpretations. 
What is attractive about that? (note topic)


... er, it feel real good to love and respect otherness.   It is sheer joy!
One might conclude from Seth:
God is Otherness


Einaian says
Certainly otherness includes ISIS

Einaian says
The Title question is not likely to be answered .  Last parting shots must come right now.



Einaian says
seth 2014-08-22 10:40:12 17662
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:26:29 17662
Certainly otherness includes ISIS

yes, but Isis is not in my network.
Sorry Bozo, I guess I joined:
PML

Einaian says
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:32:40 17662
The Title question is not likely to be answered .  Last parting shots must come right now.


Stange - nobody wants to answer it in their own words.


Einaian says
Interesting quote in not judging or ? from the New Testament
source: ... King James Bible
Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
... deeper that the words ...

Trying not to judge is a bitch.


Einaian says
seth 2014-08-23 11:33:00 17662
Einaian 2014-08-23 11:19:11 17662
Einaian 2014-08-22 10:32:40 17662
The Title question is not likely to be answered .  Last parting shots must come right now.


Stange - nobody wants to answer it in their own words.


i did answer it in my own words when i gave you my interpretation of "god is great".  it is pretty much the same thing i say when i say otherness is vast and that i respect it and accept it even though it is not necessarily me, yet i am a part of it.  that is an aspect of life that i love and submit myself to ... i don't fight that ... i don't try to twist my mind away from that ... i move directly into that.

most of the other muslim dogma is just about as irrelivant to me as is its christian counterpart.
Otherness is just another word for something else - not very revealing.
I guess there is something else in what you say - I don't know - I guess it is vast, respectable, acceptable, (Me, I) sometimes to Seth, which Seth is part of & to which he submits to & does not fight nor twist his mind away from; Something else, otherness, being something amorphous. Kewl!  How does that meme, context beget your behavior?  It doesn't always stop belligerance or contradicting my postings & sometimes is paradoxical next to your otherness above.


Einaian says
Ever wonder why Mohammedism & those who are Mohammedan changed their name to Islamists & so forth ~ 1960 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammedan
I suppose by that Christians should rename themselves to ??
Now their adherents can work in God's name instead of Mohammed's?
Where are the moderate Muslim Voice?


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