Ted Talk by Karen Armstrong via G+

Interesting way of stating the Golden Rule from Karen Armstrong (Charter of Compassion) in a TED talk.
source: ... "Look into your own heart, discover what it is that gives you pain and then refuse, under any circumstance whatsoever, to inflict that pain on anybody else."
...


Then too from the Tai Shu Yi King commentaries:

P.2514 #33,1 80-12-3-18-10-9-Thursday
" ... Dai see yao gih Eqx Hex #33 kon
P.1862- good advise, but always modified each time another one gets on the bus! Yet eternal laws in practice override the temporal.   It is well to be able to control ones thoughts feelings & volitions so that rather than enjoying criticism of the mistakes & follies of others we grieve & shed tears; then to blame pains us!"


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Eiamyme says
seth 2014-12-28 07:24:05 18033
i think this so called "golden rule" prohibition of negativity yielding pain, can also be extended to encouraging positive appreciation of other's differences.    hmmmm .... i wonder that you would call that ...
It is all a matter of what you focus upon. If you focus on difference you see difference.  If you focus on sameness, like we are all human, then you see human in spite of difference. People differ in the metaprograms they have.  Metaprograms develop as strategies for survival during childhood.  Glorifying one metaprogram against another is like glorifying AND against OR in regular computer programming. Karen's statement is a proactive way to train oneself to follow the golden rule; there being others. 


Eiamyme says
seth 2014-12-28 07:59:19 18033
hmmmm strange way to put it for me.  me, i don't think that difference is to be judged as something that is not as good as sameness.  you always seem to flash differently there ... seemingly implying to me somehow that sameness is better for you. 

Yet, i find Karen's statement that you quoted is explicitly only about inflicting pain ... and mostly that is how the golden rule is talked about ... in other words "Don't hurt others becuause it will feel the same as being hurt yourself".   Me, i think my generalization is a important attitude adjustment ... not included in the original rubric.  
But, its ok Mark, i don't expect that you will be appreciating my improvement ... who cares why ... but it might have something to do with a cherry on top for you. 
My metaprogram in this class is sameness AND yours is difference - large Egos (Me,I)s may prefer the latter.
I usually state when I can my version of the Golden Rule as love another as much as you want to be loved by others (or words to that effect - emphasis on LOVE).


Eiamyme says
seth 2014-12-28 09:07:01 18033
Eiamyme 2014-12-28 08:20:19 18033
seth 2014-12-28 07:59:19 18033
hmmmm strange way to put it for me.  me, i don't think that difference is to be judged as something that is not as good as sameness.  you always seem to flash differently there ... seemingly implying to me somehow that sameness is better for you. 

Yet, i find Karen's statement that you quoted is explicitly only about inflicting pain ... and mostly that is how the golden rule is talked about ... in other words "Don't hurt others becuause it will feel the same as being hurt yourself".   Me, i think my generalization is a important attitude adjustment ... not included in the original rubric.  
But, its ok Mark, i don't expect that you will be appreciating my improvement ... who cares why ... but it might have something to do with a cherry on top for you. 
My metaprogram in this class is sameness AND yours is difference - large Egos (Me,I)s may prefer the latter.
I usually state when I can my version of the Golden Rule as love another as much as you want to be loved by others (or words to that effect - emphasis on LOVE).


actually i don't think my metaprogram is difference ... though it might seem that way to you, because every time i flash appreciation for difference, you come back with a preference for sameness. 

but let me elaborate, i also get simulated/irritated by somebody else's difference before i learn to appreciate it for itself apart from absorbing it as sameness within myself ... but, me thinks (boasting here), i am getting better at appreciating even the original stimulation/irritation of difference impinging on my being.  then too i have this love of difference working for me according to the growth thingey discussed before.   but, no, my love for difference is not yet automatic ... it is still intentionally consciously created ... thank you for noticing or not.

and yes, , your coding of it as, "love another as much as you want to be loved by others" works for me too ... and, me thinks, says just about the same thing only shorter ... but my description seems a bit more specific and does not depend on defering to the grand Love in the clouds which necessarily is quite subjectively different to everybody, eh?

Yep the red bolded is what a miss-matcher would say.  Very few are polarity miss-matchers - always miss-matching.  Mostly there are those who are sameness with a little difference thrown in & visa versa.  No grand Love in the clouds implied here except by you - maybe sarcastically.   One can extend the love thingy to beings above & below you however with some practice.


Eiamyme says
seth 2014-12-28 10:02:15 18033
Well your tagging of me as a "mis-matcher" I interpret as just your own lack of appreciation for what i say.  It does kind of make it easy for you to discount it (no?) ... kind of generalizing what i say quite away.  I suggest that taking that assumption out of your vocabulary about me would improve your ability to hear what i am actually saying.  Hmmm ... i wonder ... if you ever have that^^very same thought yourself ... maybe about me ... or maybe about yourself. 
... & yet you demonstrated & proved to your own satisfaction with this post-comment perfectly!
way to go!

Seth says
Eiamyme 2014-12-28 09:35:09 18033
seth 2014-12-28 09:26:18 18033
Incidentally i expressed that above re "Love" in a poem ...

source: Bozo Faust 16679

Love

First i love you

for what is the same as me,

then i love you better

for what is different.
...  Is that few enough words for you?

Yeah I commented on it in the original 16679 better is a misfit for love.

yes i just reread that too. 

"better" ... or "again" (as i put it after your correction) ... the love of sameness absorbed as self ... or the love of contrast  from self ... your right prolly "better" would not go.   still and all the loves are different ... or at least created not at the same time ... and i do it with separate aspects of my being. 

anyway a good meditation for a Sunday morning ... me, here in Florida with a lot of different people in a different environment ... sucking on foreign yet compatible  WiFi on my same Airiel ... blogging on my same blog with the same you ....watching people salad ... no discord allowed or expected yet contrasting galore ... young and old ... all 3 generations of it. 

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