differentness


The young girl

is

differentness

to

the old lady.


 

Oh that evil hag ... she uses my chin as her nose.

Shut up trollup ... my mouth is not decoration for you neck !

Tags

  1. otherness
  2. differentness
  3. gestalts
  4. the not-seth
  5. distinction

Comments


Seth says
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 08:53:54 18037
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 08:20:38 18037
Someday you will eventually come back around to the word distinction which is where my study of ontology began. The distinction here is they both share the same "ink" for an optical illusion.



to me the word "distinction" refers to the act of recognizing an edge ... of seeing something against the background of what it is not ... of isolating it separate from the rest of the universe in your mind.  as such it is a recognition ... a grock ... a recognition .... a perception ... something that was apprehended ... hence perhaps somewhat understood.   i had thought you were using the word that same way.

i have been using the words "otherness" and now "differentness" in a peculair way to get at an attitude.  so these words refer more to the qualia ... the attitude that pops up .... when something that is not me, is seen as differentness from me, yet i can recognize it and even interacted with it.  this morning Denise coined the word "differentness" for me ... when i get a chance i'll try to see if she remembers why she used it.  I immediately flashed that it was the same thing that i have been talking so obsessively about.

You may be able to  easily recognize that my sentence introducing this item in in the context of the Gestalt picture  would not work if you substitute "distinction" for "differentness" ... for the girl is not distinct from the old lady ... she is manifested with quite the same ink ... which ink is orthoganal to the meaning of the picture whether it is of a girl or a lady. 



Eiamyme says
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 08:20:38 18037
Someday you will eventually come back around to the word distinction which is where my study of ontology began. The distinction here is they both share the same "ink" for an optical illusion.



Seth says
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 14:23:05 18037
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 14:01:16 18037
seth 2015-01-01 11:46:16 18037
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 08:53:54 18037
Eiamyme 2015-01-01 08:20:38 18037
Someday you will eventually come back around to the word distinction which is where my study of ontology began. The distinction here is they both share the same "ink" for an optical illusion.



to me the word "distinction" refers to the act of recognizing an edge ... of seeing something against the background of what it is not ... of isolating it separate from the rest of the universe in your mind.  as such it is a recognition ... a grock ... a recognition .... a perception ... something that was apprehended ... hence perhaps somewhat understood.   i had thought you were using the word that same way.

i have been using the words "otherness" and now "differentness" in a peculair way to get at an attitude.  so these words refer more to the qualia ... the attitude that pops up .... when something that is not me, is seen as differentness from me, yet i can recognize it and even interacted with it.  this morning Denise coined the word "differentness" for me ... when i get a chance i'll try to see if she remembers why she used it.  I immediately flashed that it was the same thing that i have been talking so obsessively about.

You may be able to  easily recognize that my sentence introducing this item in in the context of the Gestalt picture  would not work if you substitute "distinction" for "differentness" ... for the girl is not distinct from the old lady ... she is manifested with quite the same ink ... which ink is orthoganal to the meaning of the picture whether it is of a girl or a lady. 


Yep munge on.  the word distinction has been around a long time in the context of ontology. Your munge has not.
You can continue to use old words in your own unique meaning & ways as if you have discovered a new thingy (distinction) & enjoy the glow.  I am not likely to chase you anymore down your personal mazes . 
distinction (n.) Look up distinction at Dictionary.comc.1200, "one of the parts into which something is divided;" mid-14c. as "action of distinguishing," from Old French distinction and directly from Latin distinctionem (nominativedistinctio) "separation, distinction, discrimination," noun of action from past participle stem of distinguere (see distinguish). Meaning "distinctive nature or character" is late 14c. Meaning "excellence or eminence" (what distinguishes from others) is first recorded 1690s.

Also see BofNK p.528 (or 24:15 ssq ...) on The Distinction of distinction


well its not just me who uses words in ways that other people haven't heard before.   doing that is what grows our human language and our ability to express new things.  you are odd man out in this regard.   but hey, go ahead, project your stumbel failing listening of language back on me ... that way you don't need to grock the differentness of my thoughts.  that way no newness will get in to annoy your habitual thoughts. 

Seth says
source: mark
No cheese here ZZzz.....
... yep ... you can't apprehend my otherness .... but not a prob for me bro ... i have learned your habits.  don't trouble yourself with a response to this ... it would just get deleted.

Seth says
seth 2015-01-07 09:41:54 18037
Oh that evil hag ... she uses my chin as her nose.

Shut up trollup ... my mouth is not decoration for you neck !

on facebook ... same as on G+ ... same continuous thought.

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