choosing a different censors tag

We need to choose a new censors tag character.  Currently if you are signed on to group censors and affix a tag starting with ~ to any item in any group , then you force that item private to the group. 

However we are effectively using ~ inside a tag to mean "seeking" as in question~wizzard, which means that the item is a question is seeking the wizzard's answer.  These are called intentional tags.  I would like to narrow the usage of ~ to this singal usage.

Consequently we need to pick a new method of designating a censors tagging.

I would like the censors tags to sort to the end of the index.  If that flys, then here are our choices as i see them:

^  already being used for qa, but me thinks could be scheduled for demolition
_   currently being used as a workaround for reserved words like _tags

|   not used yet - this is a real easy choice

|nudity
|porn
|violence

likes this choice

Alternatively we could pick a character to go on the end of a tag.  This would keep the tag in alphabetic order but you would need to look for some special character on the end. 
Brief on topic discussion ... then the will decide ...

has been decided.   The censor's tag is "|" .  This has been implemented

Tags

  1. censors

Comments


Mark de LA says
I don't particularly like "|" and "&" because they are traditional programming booleans. I would use the cent sign if I knew how to make one on my own keyboard - apparently it is ¢ or maybe ¢ - see url http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/asciicode.asp
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Mark de LA says
Apparently the ¢ is invalid in tags.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-01 06:55:27 1809
Apparently the ? is invalid in tags.
not to mention that it is not even on the keyboards. not a valid option as far as i can see.

Mark de LA says
Otherwise I would probably use ^ when that is sanitized out of QA-use.

Mark de LA says
There are a lot of the QA tag use, but with the new tag change might work as a testcase:

^1tag_validation (1)
^5 (1)
^about (1)
^author rooms (1)
^comment_box (1)
^faq (1)
^http paste (1)
^icons in text (1)
^insert link with icon (1)
^item reference (1)
^label rooms (1)
^local links (1)
^myfastblog (1)
^nested comments (1)
^number logged in (1)
^p0 (1)
^p1 (1)
^p3 (4)
^p4 (2)
^p5 (2)
^p8 (1)
^p9 (2)
^personal icons (1)
^posted by (1)
^qa (2)
^rss (1)
^rte (2)
^s1 (1)
^s2 (1)
^s3 (2)
^s4 (3)
^s5 (1)
^smileys (1)
^suggest (1)
^system_items wishes 2 (1)
^tags (1)
^test (2)
^w2 (3)
^w3 (4)
^w4 (2)
^w5 (2)
^w6 (3)
^wish4 (1)

Mark de LA says
I would prefer that you not change your mind again.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-01 07:00:40 1809
Otherwise I would probably use ^ when that is sanitized out of QA-use.
Yes that is the only real alternative to "|" as a prefix character.   Incidentally i don't buy that "&" and "|" are for exclusive use as boolian operators; and in this case there is no notion or expectation that a tag will be a boolian expression.   Then too i kind of like the way all the censors tags will show in a list:

| porn
| nudity
| violence
| stupidity
| just sucks

Could even make the tag be "| " and force the censor to put the space into the tag. 

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-01 06:59:29 1809
Mark 2005-11-01 06:55:27 1809
Apparently the ? is invalid in tags.
not to mention that it is not even on the keyboards. not a valid option as far as i can see.
it mnemonic however & there used to be a way to type it in using multiple keystrokes.

Seth says
yes, it would be very easy to go into group domain and globally rename all of the ^ qa tags

Mark de LA says
Mark 2005-11-01 07:14:31 1809
Lets see ? - it is the Alt key held down while typing the 0162 on the keyboard.
Don't want to make it too easy for the censor.

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-01 07:08:37 1809
yes, it would be very easy to go into group domain and globally rename all of the ^ qa tags
might be easier to triage them as they are changed so they at least have the $bug designation , unless you have changed that.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-01 07:17:55 1809
seth 2005-11-01 07:08:37 1809
yes, it would be very easy to go into group domain and globally rename all of the ^ qa tags
might be easier to triage them as they are changed so they at least have the $bug designation , unless you have changed that.
$bug is working great.  but it is just one tag, not a whole matrix of tags.  the matrix of qa tags was a ....   the matrix is in the tag heirachy s $bug,rte,etc ...  .. that is the way the system is being designed.  these things are not always apparent when you go down the road. 

And i dont apologize for change ... change is ... as long as you dont go crazy with it

Mark de LA says
There is change & there is chaos & there is entropy. YOU can change all those ^ to whatever & see how much you lose of documented bugs if you care to. Otherwise, it seems to create extra work for cosmetic value.   Once a bug is gone - who cares ? It is only of value to the developer just in case it shows up again.

Mark de LA says
I don't mind evolution though!

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-01 07:38:14 1809
There is change & there is chaos & there is entropy. YOU can change all those ^ to whatever & see how much you lose of documented bugs if you care to. Otherwise, it seems to create extra work for cosmetic value.   Once a bug is gone - who cares ? It is only of value to the developer just in case it shows up again.
i dont have any prob with changeing all of those tags eventually.  some day when i get a i will go through them and mine them for things to fix.  i have a that thee will be a phase when the major stuff is done or at least at a point where major changes are being ed.  then will go through them and re tag. 


Incidentally, good tagging is not just comsmetic.  It is essential to call things in a coherent manner so that they can be remembered.  In fact remember that stratagey to improve your memory:  associating the thing with a nemonic.. well that is what you are doing when you do good tagging too.   For me this is working very well.  There are still some bugs in the tag indexes, and tag navigation, but when i get those fixed, this tagging system will be .

Mark de LA says
Did the choose on this one yet ?

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-02 05:54:25 1809
Did the choose on this one yet ?
is still strongly leaning twards "|". 

Mark de LA says
I think this can be designated as "implemented" when there are no more ~ that are not intensional tags.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-04 07:27:45 1809
I think this can be designated as "implemented" when there are no more ~ that are not intensional tags.
yep

See Also

  1. Thought Announcement: Capability of the group called censors to moderate the common stream with 0 viewings related by tag "censors".
  2. Thought If we can prevent people from abusing the community, then we have served our proper function. with 0 viewings related by tag "censors".