The Nature of Light: What are Photons? VI


Eric Reiter to submit a talk on unquantum at this conference.


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  1. eric reiter
  2. quantum physics
  3. unquantum
  4. double slit experiment
  5. consciousness

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Seth says
(;-)) 2015-09-10 16:12:12 18226
& then there are other experiments on consciousness & its's effects on the double slit experiment.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/05/01/scientific-study-shows-meditators-collapsing-quantum-systems-at-a-distance/


Note that this year old article (2014) does not accurately point directly to a scientific publication.   But at the institute where the experiments were made, Institute of Noetic Sciences, i found an article which seems very similar to what is reported here:  Radin et al (2012). "Consciousness and the double-slit interference pattern: Six experiments"

Reading the comments on the article is interesting ... especially the comment leading to this article in particular the part about "the wave function of the universe". 


Incidentally, in the conclusion of Radin et al (2012) there is a interesting discussion of the bias in the physics community against these  kinds of explanations  ... something that Eric, no doubt, has also encountered.   Perhaps that is the same kind of resisting radical explanations that I encounter when introducing ideas like this one.  When an idea is encountered which challenges one's basic assumptions, it is rejected.  Or said differently, the mind of man has great momentum ... it is stubborn. 

Seth says
(;-)) 2015-09-11 11:43:31 18226
I ran into the article on mind effecting the double split experiment as an amusement (mostly humorous) on facebook & posted it where the tagroom eric reiter landed.  What is more relevant is that so-called scientists look to prove what they want to prove - similarly the punditocracy & social media blogophiles & selfies behave similarly. It has been a long time since the true meaning of the scientific method was taught in universities or showed up in science.


Well practical cognition is the process of making up a story and then finding shareable examples (evidence) of it.   It also works when the examples themselves suggest the story, which then suggests  further examples to verify the story.  Science is a rigorous and public application of that process.

Outside of that, what is this "true meaning of the scientific method" of which you speak? 

Seth says
the inquiry is to determine what is happening ...

d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa It is all just "experience" isn't it. smile emoticon
Seth Russell
Seth Russell experience requires a particular experiencer, but what is happening does not. .... unless, perhaps, you presume that it does LOL
d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa
d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa The old if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound? LOL ... thought people had that one solved! smile emoticon
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Seth Russell
Seth Russell d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa it *is* solved, it makes a sound .. any presumptions to the contrary notwithstanding.
d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa
d'Artagnan Evergreen Barbosa Well the standard spiritual answer has always been "no". Physics experiments, the first one performed in 1801 by Thomas Young, and many more, several of which I have reposted lately, as well as Einstein, all say "no". Science and religion seem in unequivocal agreement that th answer is "no". But it does seem to persist as an urban legend, though Snopes has not weighed in on it yet. smile emoticon
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Seth Russell
Seth Russell perhaps a more precise answer would be that any fall creates a wave of consequences independent of any particular observer ... excluding perhaps the entire universe (or verse) in which the fall happened.

Re your experiential results, you would need
to quote specific narratives ... i like to think for myself and tend not to take stuff like that on authority ... even Snopes. And, yes, if we need to delve into the particle/wave entanglement of light, then so be it. Incidentally i even know a physicist who has done some some of those actual experiments himself (Eric Reiter) -- he may be ameable to help out with that inquiry. Me, i expectit is a matter of interpretation of results, (aka subjective), and not a matter of what actually happens.



Seth says
  trying to introduce eric and nathan

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