I think We Both Suffer From the Same Problem

Neither of us apparently can make ourselves understood to the other.  I for one am sick of the HUH? infinite loop from you. You apparently don't like me to mention things you haven't said already nor things about your style & personality.  Rather than waste time back in the fruitless infinite loop which can degenerate rapidly into the RWG I surrender my interest in the recent trains of thought & refuse arguing.  You shoot your own stick on the matter.


<<==fruitlessness!

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Mark de LA says
MR 2015-05-07 16:14:46 18309
seth 2015-05-07 16:05:29 18309
well don't include me in any consensus that we cannot learn to usefully communicate adult to adult.
ibid - fruitlessness no lessons learned.
Depends upon the we in that sentence. Naturally you dance to your own Me(I) as usual.

Seth says
MR 2015-05-08 06:19:21 18309
MR 2015-05-07 16:14:46 18309
seth 2015-05-07 16:05:29 18309
well don't include me in any consensus that we cannot learn to usefully communicate adult to adult.
ibid - fruitlessness no lessons learned.

Depends upon the we in that sentence.

Well it comes as a shock to me that you would think that "we" depends.     But to clarify the "we" refers specifically to Seth Russell and Mark Russell.   Were it any body else, then my sentence would not mean what i intended it to mean ... would either be ambiguous, not make any sense, or would be false. 

My theory now is that you just don't like me using the word "we" because every time i do, you go bizzerk.  Doesn't that bizzerking get in your way of understanding what i write?

Naturally you dance to your own Me(I) as usual.
... well yes of  course.  I said the same to my wife the other day ... i said,  "*I* move my body and flap my lips ... you do not".   That is part of the human predicament ... no? ... just the way the ball bounces, as it were.   So, you repeated the obvious and laughed about it to say what?


Mark de LA says
What it means for those who constantly argue & huh? (like you) is that you constantly (or invariably) assert your difference, your excess surplusage notwithstanding. It seems like NOT a way to communicate.


Eiam says
seth 2015-05-09 05:47:06 18309
MR 2015-05-08 07:58:16 18309
What it means for those who constantly argue & huh? (like you) is that you constantly (or invariably) assert your difference, your excess surplusage notwithstanding. It seems like NOT a way to communicate.


Well i go "huh?" just when what you have said hits me as totally off the wall ... in other words, either i can't figure our what it means to you, or i can't imagine why you would say it to me. 

I think what you call "argue" i call an honest attempt to at least communicate or at best reach a meeting of minds.  I know you almost always speak as if you presume that we are talking to each other in an adversarial situation, like defense and prosecution lawyers in a courtroom.  I do not make that presumption.  That may explain why what seems like argument to you, seems like trying to communicate to me.

I think when i bring up my difference in these contexts it is to infom you that i have realized that something which is true to my mind will seem false to your mind just because our minds are different.   I think those are the times where we (you and i cooperatively) can discover the assumptions in each of our minds which makes a proposition false over there, and true over here.  I do  call that trying to communicate ... not arguing ... and not being wordy.
Yep.. SOS ... or you could study your own reaction & see what that reveals to you about you instead of going for the HUH? escape .


Eiam says
seth 2015-05-09 20:58:56 18309
Eiam 2015-05-09 12:05:09 18309


perhaps a case where the sage would have better spoken for himself ... or in other words such "generaliziations are lies".

Read the cartoon. It is more suitable for your comprehension!