identity crisis

One realizes that the domain is a kind of uber group.  It contains all groups that are active here.  The domain is just as much a biological entity as a group ... see a group is a social cell.  In a way it is like a multi celled organism, with each group playing the role in the metaphor of a cell. 

Other blogging domains like fastblogit.com  have a similar phenomena.  Live Journal is perhaps the closest to our metaphor  (that i know of) in terms of people identifying with and being loyal to the domain of blogging. 

Now there is an icon for this domain and it is
 







But there is another identity that is being tossed around here and that is which we have on our rte pallet.  

Is not that icon becomming the symbol of the multi celled organism that is alive in this domain ?


Tags

  1. fastblogit
  2. seth
  3. wizzard
  4. domain
  5. identity
  6. cybermind
  7. leviathan

Comments


Mark de LA says
I thought the wizzard, i.e. was you! FastBlogIt is the domain. What are you getting at?

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-02 09:46:27 1831
I thought the wizzard, i.e. was you! FastBlogIt is the domain. What are you getting at?
... err ... well i know that we have been talking like that.  but things change .  and we do need some symbol of the uber group.  for the moment this is the best that there is.  like the title of this item indicates ... this is an identity crisis.

Seth says
You may have noticed that i just took off of the header in group seth to distance my own personal identity from the uber domain.  i cant have it, nor do i want it, both ways.

Seth says
ask yourself, when you click , are you not refering to the uber domain process that is running here? ... and if not, project yourself into the future when it is not just seth who is actively programming here and not just seth who is so very active here producing items and comments.

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-02 09:51:10 1831
You may have noticed that i just took off of the header in group seth to distance my own personal identity from the uber domain.  i cant have it, nor do i want it, both ways.
Well, I don't think it is a good symbol for the uber-domain or cybermind of this thing.


Was nice for that era & the trademark for the company.



I think we need a new one !  The looks too much like Haloween.


Seth says
Mark 2005-11-02 10:03:21 1831
seth 2005-11-02 09:51:10 1831
You may have noticed that i just took off of the header in group seth to distance my own personal identity from the uber domain.  i cant have it, nor do i want it, both ways.
Well, I don't think it is a good symbol for the uber-domain or cybermind of this thing.


Was nice for that era & the trademark for the company.



I think we need a new one !  The looks too much like Haloween.


hmmm ... i like the cyber genie top left of the picture u quoted

Seth says
One thing to bear in mind is that fastblotit is not only a commercial enterprise that intends to make money, but that is just what it is to us.  That is not what it is to those who will come here and open groups and interact.  They do not care that we are making money on them.  In fact, more likely, they may resent that fact.  Examples like blog spot, msn spaces, and google groups abound.  Please do not think that this change of identity will detract from our business plan.  Our business plan involves the ability of this software to be installed on multiple domains ... and me thinks that is where we will be making our money.

Mark de LA says
Well I don't resent google adds.  Most of the open source movement & other moochers resent anything not free - fuck them! (BTW, I think we really need the finger emotlet). Let them go somewhere else to mooch; let the market determine whose is best.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-02 10:34:07 1831
Well I don't resent google adds.  Most of the open source movement & other moochers resent anything not free - fuck them! (BTW, I think we really need the finger emotlet). Let them go somewhere else to mooch; let the market determine whose is best.
that is pretty much the way i feel too .   there are realities of the marketplace that trancend these feelings .. and our depends on those realities.  for me, survival is king !

Mark de LA says
source: there are realities of the marketplace that trancend these feelings .. and our depends on those realities. 
Like what ?

Mark de LA says
BTW - if this were translated to the icybermind domain I think this might be OK or appropriate.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 06:54:17 1831
source: there are realities of the marketplace that trancend these feelings .. and our depends on those realities. 
Like what ?

This is just expressing my experience that you what you want to produce is not necessarily what people will buy or in this case use.  You need to keep mutating the thingy you are offering till you start getting bites on your lure.  You can't do that in a vacum.  You do that in the marketplace. 

For me, fastblogit is like a multi celled orgamism.  The multi cell are the groups.  This item, Identity Crisis, emerged because i realized that the whole domain has an identity, just like your body has an identity as opposed to the individual cells that compose it.  The zip install file is like the the DNA instructions that are used to reproduce other individual animals.  That is what i want to produce.  Primarialy because i am still playing this Leviathan game in my mind, and probably always will (for which i offer no apoligies). 

But what i realize is that Leviathan game is not necessarialy what will sell.  Though it just might,  who know, sometimes you get what you wish for, and somethimes you do best that which your have been targeting for all your life. 

Incidentally there are features that we can put into fastblogit which will tend to emphacize the Leviathan model.  We can draw more stringent dividing lines between what is internal to the domain and what the domain looks like from the outside.  Some of those might be:
  1. an option to allow a item to be public for the domain - viewable if you come to the domain and look - but not published externally. 
  2. don't put items that are domain private in the river  - or perhaps dont put items that are domain private in the river that is seen by someone who has not signed on.
  3. ...

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 06:56:34 1831
BTW - if this were translated to the icybermind domain I think this might be OK or appropriate.
If you "this" refers to the fastblogit system, then the word "translated" is mis chosen.  It should be more like "installed" or "uploaded".   Otherwise i cannot guess what "this" refers to.

Mark de LA says
$this=the cygenie of the CYbermind I label. $translated=edited (obviously you would remove the rest of the shit.)

Seth says
4. you do not bookmark (manually or automatically) items that are domain private.
5. you do on put items that are domain private in the feed
6. ...

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 09:43:54 1831
$this=the cygenie of the CYbermind I label. $translated=edited (obviously you would remove the rest of the shit.)
Ok, i see .  But i think then Cygenie would be a getter domain name.  Perhaps Cygenie.org.

Fastblogit.com could become the seller of the DNA.

Seth says
seth 2005-11-13 09:33:08 1831

3.  Get winnie to make a icon that personifies ... is is not the arrow, but a icon of a personage ... the domain animal.  so far that has been (assuming that Seth has stepped away from identifying with that character).  Note Winnie's character from Cybermind  above. 



Mark de LA says
I still think there are 2 distinct personalities here. The domain genie and the wizzard (the webmaster & developer).

Mark de LA says
Incidently, it would be nice to get some more of the DNA. Can you shoot some so I don't have to download the whole site ?

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 09:53:40 1831
Incidently, it would be nice to get some more of the DNA. Can you shoot some so I don't have to download the whole site ?
don't you want to wait till tag display and navigation project is completed ??

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 09:51:50 1831
I still think there are 2 distinct personalities here. The domain genie and the wizzard (the webmaster & developer).
Yes this is true ... will always be true 

Seth

Seth says
seth 2005-11-13 09:50:38 1831
Mark 2005-11-13 09:43:54 1831
$this=the cygenie of the CYbermind I label. $translated=edited (obviously you would remove the rest of the shit.)
Ok, i see .  But i think then Cygenie would be a getter domain name.  Perhaps Cygenie.org.

Fastblogit.com could become the seller of the DNA.
We are sorry but cygenie.org is unavailable. 

Mark de LA says
or iCyGenius

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 10:22:54 1831
or iCyGenius
Congratulations! icygenius.org is available

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-13 10:00:55 1831
Mark 2005-11-13 09:53:40 1831
Incidently, it would be nice to get some more of the DNA. Can you shoot some so I don't have to download the whole site ?
don't you want to wait till tag display and navigation project is completed ??
Well, for me , it is hard to tell where the is on that project nor when in human terms that release will become available. My desire is to re-attack my [marks: tag project understand code] with what is current & translate some of that into automatic testing (like perhaps the RTE).  I need a database that is under control of the system under test.  That means I empty the database to start the context for each test (or test suite) & see what shows up after a controlled set of feature exercises. Testing usually ends up being good documentation of the way features work anyway.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-13 10:33:23 1831
seth 2005-11-13 10:00:55 1831
Mark 2005-11-13 09:53:40 1831
Incidently, it would be nice to get some more of the DNA. Can you shoot some so I don't have to download the whole site ?
don't you want to wait till tag display and navigation project is completed ??
Well, for me , it is hard to tell where the is on that project nor when in human terms that release will become available. My desire is to re-attack my [marks: tag project understand code] with what is current & translate some of that into automatic testing (like perhaps the RTE).  I need a database that is under control of the system under test.  That means I empty the database to start the context for each test (or test suite) & see what shows up after a controlled set of feature exercises. Testing usually ends up being good documentation of the way features work anyway.
Cool .. if that is your ~ then i will try to ejaculate some DNA today.

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-13 10:32:30 1831
Mark 2005-11-13 10:22:54 1831
or iCyGenius
Congratulations! icygenius.org is available
Grab It! - I think it may be a winner!

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