Autoinculcated Ignorance = Willful Stupidity = shared condsequences

Arrogance which basically is "I can't understand it" therefore whatever story I create & fillibuster is what my reality is.
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Eiaming says

Eiaming says
The above just proves that sequence does not necessarily imply cause. Sorry you missed it. The converse maybe, maybe not depending upon what you focus upon.


Eiam says
mostly beliefs
parental scolding
threats
root in sequence ignored
non scientific
psycho-bullshit
maybe paranoia
....
like the letters in the word munge
are in sequence but what is that sequence as far as implying that the m causes the u which causes the n which causes the g which causes the e ....
& causes the following disgusting (to some) behavior.


Seth says
Eiam 2015-05-20 07:32:09 18335
I grok what GW wrote & not what you wrote the latter being a munge of your distaste for the occult. Why don't you remove your extract of a part of the introductory page of book GW & stand alone by your own stuff?


sorry this goes better in your mental decay, than on my thinking.  it is stuff that is just about you. Did you notice that what you said has nothing to do with my thoughts. 

i used what GW said there just because it clearly express an attitude towards the consequences that we share.  And, yes, that is an attitude against which i rebel.  It does not help my life, or the life of people with whom i interact ... it does not help brudershaft.

Eiam says
seth 2015-05-20 06:06:22 18332
Eiam 2015-05-19 12:43:41 18332
mostly beliefs
parental scolding
threats
root in sequence ignored
non scientific
psycho-bullshit
maybe paranoia
....
like the letters in the word munge
are in sequence but what is that sequence as far as implying that the m causes the u which causes the n which causes the g which causes the e ....
& causes the following disgusting (to some) behavior.


causes and/or consequences are not beliefs or parental scolding ... they happen regardless of what is believed or what a parent flaps their lips about.   but of course one can have a belief about causes and/or consequences.  best not to confuse that.

there is no causal or consequential relationship in the sequence of letters in a word ... that thought is just nonsense ... even if you meant it facetiously.   the entire pattern of letters represents the word and the word represents what it means when used in a sentence. 

when one takes care that ones words accurately represent their meaning one can actually discover new patterns by thinking in the language ... and communicate those patterns to others.   Also one can notice where an extraneous association has crept into a thought.  i have found it is best not to indulge such extraneous associations and non referential or ambiguous phrases ... otherwise mental decay sets in and one can no longer usefully think in the language.  i suggest practicing writing true sentences ... that helped me a lot ... maybe also reread RS's pamphlet on practical thinking ... that also helped me a lot.  me, i find no use or beauty or fun in mental decay or shallow or distracted or mean spirited thought ... even in jest. 
Your self-serving rhetoric munge just shows how bad your intent to understand is.

Seth says
Eiaming 2015-05-20 07:44:12 18332
The above just proves that sequence does not necessarily imply cause. Sorry you missed it. The converse maybe, maybe not depending upon what you focus upon.


well of course sequence does not imply cause ... i never said that it did.  

But cause implies sequence as maybe you have also observed. 

What does your thought that  "cause might imply sequence depending on what you focus upon" mean?  Can you give an example?

Eiaming says
seth 2015-05-20 07:46:20 18332
Eiam 2015-05-20 07:32:09 18335
I grok what GW wrote & not what you wrote the latter being a munge of your distaste for the occult. Why don't you remove your extract of a part of the introductory page of book GW & stand alone by your own stuff?


sorry this goes better in your mental decay, than on my thinking.  it is stuff that is just about you. Did you notice that what you said has nothing to do with my thoughts. 

i used what GW said there just because it clearly express an attitude towards the consequences that we share.  And, yes, that is an attitude against which i rebel.  It does not help my life, or the life of people with whom i interact ... it does not help brudershaft.
The attitude is within you! .. even what you imagine we share!  Maybe study what specifically (remember being specific) causes you to rebel against your father & his work.  What scared you in your youth? What scared you after you ran away (or maybe before it).  What kind of a selfie did you build for yourself to protect your selfie from what scared you.  It is pedictable that you will deny all of that.  PR's BofNK & the Pursuit of Consciousness books have no occult in them & yet if you really wanted to study them you might become enlightened past the desire to just argue to protect your selfie.  Then too you might study & see what does argumentativeness  provide you the way of a selfie that protects you. Maybe see how you & GW share that trait & yours is just more like imitation. I am fairly solid in my ontology.  Most of your lecturing does not contribute. A lot of the time I post things here as just bookmarks & then privatize them later just to avoid wasting time arguing about them.  18343 was such but even that you had an opinion about missing the core which is what I hid in the post to myself.




Eiaming says
Maybe the occult is just anything that Bozo does not grok or understand & as such scares him producing arrogance which is a defense mechanism for building a selfie against it. 
Me(I) - ha ha using a bozoterm (or boterm) now - prefer now knowing as a springboard to further exploration - no need to know everything.


Eiaming says
Brother Hon in some of his finest moments was all send & no receive. I remember the first time I realized that was so when I brought Charlene home to meet papa. Hon was out of his mind in the excitement part of his bipolarity. I tried to reason with him but to him it was more important to send his brilliant ideas out in the World than reason or listen to another. His disease was not rational; even though to him everything was perfectly clear. I say that to say this - not knowing is not so bad after all as a minimum it keeps the solidity of one's beliefs & consequences in check long enough to get a second opinion & maybe a third .... etc.


Eiaming says
seth 2015-05-20 09:13:55 18332
Eiaming 2015-05-20 08:49:51 18332
Brother Hon in some of his finest moments was all send & no receive. I remember the first time I realized that was so when I brought Charlene home to meet papa. Hon was out of his mind in the excitement part of his bipolarity. I tried to reason with him but to him it was more important to send his brilliant ideas out in the World than reason or listen to another. His disease was not rational; even though to him everything was perfectly clear. I say that to say this - not knowing is not so bad after all as a minimum it keeps the solidity of one's beliefs & consequences in check long enough to get a second opinion & maybe a third .... etc.


Well yes careful listening to what another is actually meaning is certainly part of creating our brotherhood.

Hon was hebephrenic, he was not listening ... his balance with what he did not know was way out of whack ... even though what he was experiencing deep within himself privately must have been very clear indeed.  I know how it feels, I've been there myself.   Strangely enought i played my way out of that unbalance by culturing a extreme respect for that which was other than myself ... i learned to better listen.  But, ok, i know that is just my story of what actually happened. 
Begs the question of how do you know what is other than yourself since cognizing something is all you have to do it with & you cognize with your selfie.


Eiaming says
seth 2015-05-20 08:59:55 18332
well one thing that you said above hints at something that we both can share ....

source: mark

even what you imagine we share [ is within me].


Well yes .   Thing is we humans do that all the time ... it's frequently called "empathizing" ... without it i don't think there would be any brudershaft. 

Sorry, i can find nothing else in what you said above that is about my thoughts here at all ... rather they seem to be just your peculiar twist on my thoughts playing some egotistic game with me.  I interpret that now as just mental decay ... mostly because it is so repetitive and uninformative.   But if i missed something real, please let me know.

Yep, I knew & expressed that you would probably deny. I am complete with your not knowing & denying. No further explanations are possible.



Eiaming says
seth 2015-05-20 09:58:48 18332
Eiaming 2015-05-20 09:58:07 18332
Still begs the question of how to identify new things since you are the measuring tape.


they surprise me .
A loud noise can do the same.
surprise (n.) Look up surprise at Dictionary.comalso formerly surprize, late 14c., "unexpected attack or capture," from Old French surprise "a taking unawares" (13c.), from noun use of past participle of Old French sorprendre "to overtake, seize, invade" (12c.), from sur- "over" (see sur- (1)) + prendre "to take," from Latin prendere, contracted from prehendere "to grasp, seize" (see prehensile). Meaning "something unexpected" first recorded 1590s, that of "feeling of astonishment caused by something unexpected" is c. 1600. Meaning "fancy dish" is attested from 1708. A Surprize is ... a dish ... which promising little from its first appearance, when open abounds with all sorts of variety. [W. King, "Cookery," 1708] Surprise party originally was a stealth military detachment (1826); festive sense is attested by 1857; according to Thornton's "American Glossary," originally a gathering of members of a congregation at the house of their preacher "with the ostensible purpose of contributing provisions, &c., for his support," and sometimes called a donation party. Phrase taken by surprise is attested from 1690s.

Seth says
Eiaming 2015-05-20 09:26:20 18332
seth 2015-05-20 09:13:55 18332
Eiaming 2015-05-20 08:49:51 18332
Brother Hon in some of his finest moments was all send & no receive. I remember the first time I realized that was so when I brought Charlene home to meet papa. Hon was out of his mind in the excitement part of his bipolarity. I tried to reason with him but to him it was more important to send his brilliant ideas out in the World than reason or listen to another. His disease was not rational; even though to him everything was perfectly clear. I say that to say this - not knowing is not so bad after all as a minimum it keeps the solidity of one's beliefs & consequences in check long enough to get a second opinion & maybe a third .... etc.


Well yes careful listening to what another is actually meaning is certainly part of creating our brotherhood.

Hon was hebephrenic, he was not listening ... his balance with what he did not know was way out of whack ... even though what he was experiencing deep within himself privately must have been very clear indeed.  I know how it feels, I've been there myself.   Strangely enought i played my way out of that unbalance by culturing a extreme respect for that which was other than myself ... i learned to better listen.  But, ok, i know that is just my story of what actually happened. 
Begs the question of how do you know what is other than yourself since cognizing something is all you have to do it with & you cognize with your selfie.


i notice the new things when i first perceive them ... then i attitude those to a source ... this one came from RS ... this from GW ... this from science ... that from my wife ... that from Mark ... etc. 

Eiaming says
Still begs the question of how to identify new things since you are the measuring tape.


Seth says
Eiaming 2015-05-20 09:58:07 18332
Still begs the question of how to identify new things since you are the measuring tape.


they surprise me .

Seth says
Eiaming 2015-05-20 10:03:28 18332
seth 2015-05-20 09:58:48 18332
Eiaming 2015-05-20 09:58:07 18332
Still begs the question of how to identify new things since you are the measuring tape.


they surprise me .

A loud noise can do the same.

surprise (n.) Look up surprise at Dictionary.comalso formerly surprize, late 14c., "unexpected attack or capture," from Old French surprise "a taking unawares" (13c.), from noun use of past participle of Old French sorprendre "to overtake, seize, invade" (12c.), from sur- "over" (see sur- (1)) + prendre "to take," from Latin prendere, contracted from prehendere "to grasp, seize" (see prehensile). Meaning "something unexpected" first recorded 1590s, that of "feeling of astonishment caused by something unexpected" is c. 1600. Meaning "fancy dish" is attested from 1708. A Surprize is ... a dish ... which promising little from its first appearance, when open abounds with all sorts of variety. [W. King, "Cookery," 1708] Surprise party originally was a stealth military detachment (1826); festive sense is attested by 1857; according to Thornton's "American Glossary," originally a gathering of members of a congregation at the house of their preacher "with the ostensible purpose of contributing provisions, &c., for his support," and sometimes called a donation party. Phrase taken by surprise is attested from 1690s.

Yep, and a loud noise is almost always something new that is other than me.

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