Shenpa

About: how we get hooked by shenpa

source: pema chodron

Shenpa: is the urge, the hook, that triggers our habitual tendency to close down. We get hooked in that moment of tightening when we reach for relief. To get unhooked we begin by recognizing that moment of unease and learn to relax in that moment.

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Seth says

... 2015-07-01 07:06:20 18493

not my birdie ... somedays when the Egoo is thick & the rwg to deep I choose the Golden Mean

& walk away ... like yesterday.

well i have noticed that i do get hooked when i reach for relief. for me this usually is not where i separate myself from otherness to enhance my egoo. i notice it happening when i go to the kitchen to eat an extra piece of bread or when i get distracted from a focus when consequences are giving me pain or when i sit on the toilet and automatically get an urge to go lie down.

i hail you walking away from egoo ... perhaps you recognized the shenpa of it ... i do not know. i posted this for my own awareness of "shenpa" because i just now noticed the pointer from FB (strangely enough i think it was a advertisement, not from my friends) ... it has no connection to you except what you yourself connect with it.

Please stop talking to me with this "birdie" coin of yours. Its usage always hits me as evil intent.

Seth says

... 2015-07-01 09:13:00 18493

Maybe an insight here or not, but when you talk about yourself I rarely question the validity of your experience & sometimes get curious. When you talk about we as if what you ares saying is true for me I question it.

and well you should question whether it applies to you or not

. When it applies you could give me a high five

(or not) ...

and when it does not please tell me because i would surly want to know.

I always use "we" intentionally just where i believe something that applies to me also applies to you. But of course i don't know if it feels true to you, unless you tell me. Don't you think that ragging on my manner of using the word obstructs you telling me whether the specific instance applies to you or not? It makes your response ambiguous to me in that regard.

Seth says

source: mark

Please stop using the editorial we as if you are speaking about me instead of just you! It hits me as a lie a lot of the time. In this example I still have no idea about what you are talking using the word shenpa. The article seems empty of experience & full of abstraction.

This particular usage was not even me speaking, it was Pema Chodron. I suppose he could have talked in the third person and said, "Humans get hooked in that moment of tightening when they reach for relief". To some people, especially me, that would not have sounded quite so true. But if even that hits you as a lie, then apparently you do feel that this Tibetan wisdom is a lie and you do not get so hooked. Well me i recognize those moments, ... the tightening, and reach to relieve it, the very reach for relief perpetuating the pattern of suffering. Maybe you could read the article without the assumption that it is abstractions as opposed to referring to actual experience ... i don't know ... it did not seem abstract to me.

When i write a true sentence about myself and also believe that it applies to others who might be listening i will continue to use the first person plural. I think it builds common awareness just especially where the other people can feel the truth applying to themselves. We humans have been doing that for a long time and, me thinks to good effect ... especially since people can always exclude themselves from said consciousness by denying it. I explained this in 17717 and elsewhere in we. I am not going to change my consciousness building behavior here. You can alwasy exclude yourself from it in specific instances where you want to insist that it does not apply to you. I used to do that myself by saying, "you said that, i didn't" as my rebellion from the manner of speaking in some instance.

I suppose i will just need to tolerate your obstruction of my pointing. It is just a bit sad because i suspect that you are hooked on your cute birdie rather than hearing whatever thing that i am saying. Sad, but oh well ... just the way the birdie chips i guess.

Seth says

seth 2015-07-02 12:36:37 18494

for me egoo is the greedy habit of being apart from otherness as against the love of cooperating with it. it would be the part of me which would say, "i have no need to hail your agreement, that would be just for you, sorry not my thing".

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